I don't get the used condition inflated 3leaf prices that are happening.
Me neither but apparently perceived scarcity builds uncontrollable GAS.
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I don't get the used condition inflated 3leaf prices that are happening.
It most certainly does, and it's not isolated to us pedal-fanatics. I recently walked away from a new vehicle purchase because the dealer wanted an extra $10,000 on top of the MSRP and destination charge for a vehicle they were selling for just over $40,000. Effectively a 25% markup. He explained that it was due to vehicle scarcity and was what they (a massive dealership with a huge inventory) had to do to "keep the lights on."Me neither but apparently perceived scarcity builds uncontrollable GAS.

Proton V4 is a good pedal. I'm almost kinda bummed that I sold mine. The only reason I did so was because I had the Chromatron as well, and I was almost on the side of selling the Chroma before I unlocked the usefulness of the fx loop and the expression switch.Hey 3Leaf thread. Reading about some of the speculation and the business side of things reminded me to post... I'd picked up a Proton v4 at the first of the year. Encountered zero issues. Ordered and it showed up 3 days later. Been on my board ever since.
It is a great sounding and fun filter. Thick, juicy, lively feel, and great range.. As others mentioned, I'm also glad I was able to get one before the buying/selling made them a PIA for musicians to acquire
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It most certainly does, and it's not isolated to us pedal-fanatics. I recently walked away from a new vehicle purchase because the dealer wanted an extra $10,000 on top of the MSRP and destination charge for a vehicle they were selling for just over $40,000. Effectively a 25% markup. He explained that it was due to vehicle scarcity and was what they (a massive dealership with a huge inventory) had to do to "keep the lights on."![]()
*have not had second thoughtsAs Bassgeer said. I appreciate the You're Doom just for the meme of the name, but I can't imagine not having the feature set of the Doom 2. I got mine right when they came out and have not had s
Proton V4 is a good pedal. I'm almost kinda bummed that I sold mine. The only reason I did so was because I had the Chromatron as well, and I was almost on the side of selling the Chroma before I unlocked the usefulness of the fx loop and the expression switch.
Honestly, I feel like you would be better off if you learned to speak Cantonese. It could change your life.Honestly, I feel like Spencer would be well off to hire a few support staff to help with his operations. I doubt any of us would view his products as lesser quality if he had a bit of help. Plus with the demand that his pedals command, if he could pump more products out, he would likely make a very nice profit.
Granted, I know part of the delays currently are lack of supplies/components for the pedals.
While I am sure everyone would benefit from learning a new language, could you please elaborate?Honestly, I feel like you would be better off if you learned to speak Cantonese. It could change your life.
While I am sure everyone would benefit from learning a new language, could you please elaborate?
I get both sides. Regardless, the para eq is something I would have gassed hard for at one time. Seems like a really useful utility.
Grabbing things off the shelf and knob twisting is fun for sure, but playing time is limited and reefing out by knob twiddling is one thing that usually keeps me from actually writing music.
Honestly, I feel like Spencer would be well off to hire a few support staff to help with his operations. I doubt any of us would view his products as lesser quality if he had a bit of help. Plus with the demand that his pedals command, if he could pump more products out, he would likely make a very nice profit.
Granted, I know part of the delays currently are lack of supplies/components for the pedals.
I get both sides. Regardless, the para eq is something I would have gassed hard for at one time. Seems like a really useful utility.
Grabbing things off the shelf and knob twisting is fun for sure, but playing time is limited and reefing out by knob twiddling is one thing that usually keeps me from actually writing music.
Well that's funny... I don't think I've quite seen that happen yet. It's funny enough that I'm in both threads in question.This is definitely a reply that landed in the wrong thread...but I feel you. It really all depends on what your goals are. If you are looking to write a ton of material...one could argue that pedals themselves are a distraction to your goals.
We really don't know much about what's going on with 3Leaf and/or Spencer other than the few anecdotal accounts in this thread (maybe he posted something on his site at one point too?) that the past 18+ months have been hard on him just like most of the world. There are also some stories of people not getting the level of customer service they expect and some unfulfilled promises that are getting very old.
Needless to say, adding in staff that you are responsible for leading, paying, etc sounds like a pretty poor idea. Just because there is money to be made doesn't mean that action will happen. If you really stop to think about it, it would probably serve Spencer best to build up a few boxes and have a friend list them on ebay or reverb for the current market rate.
Well that's funny... I don't think I've quite seen that happen yet. It's funny enough that I'm in both threads in question.
Which former business collaborations?I'm guessing @jbybj meant--in a tongue-in-cheek sort of way--that your well-meaning suggestion is easier in theory than in practice...? Perhaps Spencer already considered hiring staff (maybe even did so for a time), and found that it just wasn't a strategy that suited him. It's well known that one of his former business collaborations didn't end well; and perhaps that has led him to keeping a more low-key business model.
Which former business collaborations?
Proton V4 is a good pedal. I'm almost kinda bummed that I sold mine. The only reason I did so was because I had the Chromatron as well, and I was almost on the side of selling the Chroma before I unlocked the usefulness of the fx loop and the expression switch.