No email….i feel like Linus waiting for the Great Pumpkin…
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3Leaf Audio Club - Episode 2
- Thread starter fivestringgecko
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Crazy price, but I've never seen another before (not even listed on 3Leaf's legacy page):
Pike Amplification Vulcan XL - Custom Wood Front | Reverb
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Pike Amplification Vulcan XL - Custom Wood Front | Reverb
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He made those for the little Vulcan, and mini octabrve as well. I should get my veneer stock in next week, I'm making one for my mk3
You're making your own? Cool! I've seen the Octabvre mini, but this was the first XL I've seen like this.
I have a mk3 octabrve that's labels, well I'm sure you've heard the stories. I'm going to engrave the actual pedal, and then make a wooden cover as well. I have a doom2, same gen, I'll be doing the same.
I have nice veneer coming next week. I tried some lighter wood but didn't like it, bought something a little harder this time
Well I was going to try to get in on the Octabvre drop... I have no need for an onboard preamp though.
On the plus side, it should help cut down on people buying to flip. Profit margin goes down with the preamp purchase tacked on.
Just saw the email LOL. What a clown.
Feels like GameStop when you just want a PS5
"It's called: you buy my preamp."
Lol, yeah no. Hard pass. I wanted a Octabvre for myself, and not to flip. No way I'm gonna order a preamp I don't need ( IF i needed one, I definitely would buy another one, more akin to an Alembic Filter Control).
I can and will not buy anything now,terrible marketing decision.
If I want milk, I buy milk, and not milk with an extra cow.
I can and will not buy anything now,terrible marketing decision.
If I want milk, I buy milk, and not milk with an extra cow.
Might be interested in a Blue Preamp Combo Kit with knobs etc if someone wants the pedal and not the Preamp…
Message me and we can make arrangements!
Message me and we can make arrangements!
I think Spencer has endured enough undeserved crap from TalkBass so when, after the first batch of Doom 2 pedals, I learned the international customers were guaranteed the additional two pedals if they managed to buy one in the madness of the first minute, I gave him a lot of grace. My thinking was "Now that's a curious business model. Laudable in terms of how generous it is to international customers, but ultimately rather discriminatory to his domestic customers given how scarce his pedals are." If he were regularly releasing pedals in rolling batches then I think this would be a wonderful thing to help international folks save money on shipping; instead the reality is that 3 Leaf production/inventory has been uncertain and intermittent for years and therefore demand is through the roof so reserving pedals (and thus limiting available inventory further) for particular customers is inequitable. Of course, the fact the international customers have to pay more for shipping is also inequitable, but that's a reflection of geography/fuel costs and not something Spencer arbitrarily decided.
But requiring customers to buy something they do not need or want in order to get something they do want is a slap in the face. As a customer, I choose what I spend my money on: I already have a Mike Pope preamp in my bass and I'm not looking to change that; compelling me to buy one just to get an Octabvre MKIII is an abuse of the builder-customer relationship. And as a customer, I feel disrespected because this feels like us musicians are being blamed for the scalping and quick sales. Now I wholeheartedly support efforts to undercut scalpers. (I think what Joel did with the Bliss Factory and what Josh is doing with the Scorpion are commendable.) No one should be profiting so excessively from a builder's work. But the rapid sales and scalping situation are a product of Spencer's own creation and that's why shifting the onus onto the customers feels wrong. The correct solution is to 1) build more pedals to reduce the gap between supply and demand, and 2) be transparent about future production.
I'll elaborate on that second point: even now I feel very confused about the future of 3 Leaf Audio because I don't know how to read this sudden burst of activity in late 2023. Will this model of ~100 pedals a month or two continue? Is this a last push to meet some demand before moving on to new designs or new revisions of current designs (as has happened in the past)? Will production cease completely once these nine batches are produced? Because Spencer hasn't said what will happen after these nine batches, demand is as insane as ever. I suspect Spencer himself doesn't know. But I do know that if it were announced that production will continue in the future, the ability of scalpers and flippers to upcharge would be undermined because buyers would know they simply needed to wait. Instead none of us know if these releases are our last chance to get this stuff so unethical folks are able to manipulate the secondhand market. And all that does is keep great gear out of the hands of musicians. Everyone loses but the flippers.
I'll end this by reiterating (as I have said before in this thread) that I think Spencer builds wonderful pedals and I want him to succeed. But, as a customer, I also need to be respected. And this latest update is highly disrespectful.
But requiring customers to buy something they do not need or want in order to get something they do want is a slap in the face. As a customer, I choose what I spend my money on: I already have a Mike Pope preamp in my bass and I'm not looking to change that; compelling me to buy one just to get an Octabvre MKIII is an abuse of the builder-customer relationship. And as a customer, I feel disrespected because this feels like us musicians are being blamed for the scalping and quick sales. Now I wholeheartedly support efforts to undercut scalpers. (I think what Joel did with the Bliss Factory and what Josh is doing with the Scorpion are commendable.) No one should be profiting so excessively from a builder's work. But the rapid sales and scalping situation are a product of Spencer's own creation and that's why shifting the onus onto the customers feels wrong. The correct solution is to 1) build more pedals to reduce the gap between supply and demand, and 2) be transparent about future production.
I'll elaborate on that second point: even now I feel very confused about the future of 3 Leaf Audio because I don't know how to read this sudden burst of activity in late 2023. Will this model of ~100 pedals a month or two continue? Is this a last push to meet some demand before moving on to new designs or new revisions of current designs (as has happened in the past)? Will production cease completely once these nine batches are produced? Because Spencer hasn't said what will happen after these nine batches, demand is as insane as ever. I suspect Spencer himself doesn't know. But I do know that if it were announced that production will continue in the future, the ability of scalpers and flippers to upcharge would be undermined because buyers would know they simply needed to wait. Instead none of us know if these releases are our last chance to get this stuff so unethical folks are able to manipulate the secondhand market. And all that does is keep great gear out of the hands of musicians. Everyone loses but the flippers.
I'll end this by reiterating (as I have said before in this thread) that I think Spencer builds wonderful pedals and I want him to succeed. But, as a customer, I also need to be respected. And this latest update is highly disrespectful.
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Sorry, I don't sell pedals so take this with a grain of salt, but if you want to sell something this isn't how you go about it. If you're going to bundle something like this it needs to be highly discounted or free even, get a couple or few out in the wild. IF they're as good as you say they are, they should sell themselves. Good grief
Yea I’m thinking that was a really poor marketing decision on his end. I just saw the email and literally thought “dude are you serious?”. It doesn’t come across as an equalizing opportunity for others to get the pedal; it feels like manipulation and inventory liquidation. Frankly the higher Proton price also felt a bit like that.
Questionable decision…
Questionable decision…
I guess it’s the buyer’s fault that he can’t keep up with supply?
