HUA.
Will be paying attention to this thread to garner any more guidance! I was going to try the D2 in the middle of a IE Subterrograph but am wondering if there's a limit to how much stacked sawtooth an ear can handle.
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3Leaf Audio Club - Episode 2
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Will be paying attention to this thread to garner any more guidance! I was going to try the D2 in the middle of a IE Subterrograph but am wondering if there's a limit to how much stacked sawtooth an ear can handle.
I owned a Doom 2 for a while, and found it added basically nothing to the Subterranea once the synth voices were turned on/up. It does a soft clipping sort of sawtooth fuzz that the Sub isn't really capable of (it's pretty in-your-face no matter which voicing you select), and that low-gain sound pairs well with the octave voice in the Sub (as well as the XD), especially if you need a different flavour of octave-driven synth. But I didn't find it really "upped the game" by sticking the D2 voice into the Sub's wall of noise. YMMV, of course!
I agree with @sloppy_phil that there typically isn't a lot to gain (no pun intended) by stacking the fuzzes. But it could still be worth trying if you can voice them in a way that fills in any gaps in the synth sound. Perhaps even turning off the Subsonic will bring out different characters to the fuzzes. I'd also try the toggle on the D2 in both positions to see if you like the high-passed clean better when you pair with the Subsonic. With the XD on afterwards, you can really test the upper limits of the Mid and High knobs as well. It's all experimentation to find sounds you like. Take pics of your settings for later use!
I just got my Doom 2 and I'm loving all the posibilities, especially the low-gain options.
I am planning to go octaver -> always-on overdrive -> Doom 2 -> filter -> compressor -> preamp.
What I'm thinking about now is where to put the compressor, since I set up the Doom at a little higher volume than the rest of the chain (to cut through the parts where fuzz is needed since everybody else tends to be louder), but if I do it that way, the compressor is squashing my signal a bit too much.
Where do you normally place your compressor with the Doom?
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I agree with you both: I haven't found a benefit to stacking them so I instead use them for different types of synth bass sounds. The Doom 2 for low-gain smooth synth and the Subterranea for more aggressive sounding, higher-gain synth.
I place my compressor after my Doom 2 and filter. On one board the compressor is right after the filter (but before modulation) and on my other board the compressor is after everything.
You know, I ought to complete my Boutique Bass Pedal Trifecta and get an XD.
For any of you that use a Josh Wah with the Doom2, could I see your settings? And really I am asking about how the gain on the two pedals may/may not interact, especially once the Subsonic is in the mix. (Subsonic >Doom2 > Josh Wah)
When I run any 2, I get distinctive goodness happening. But when I run all 3, it sounds like a fatter (and better) Subsonic+Joshwah, but so far, I have not found a fundamentally different tone. Maybe there isn't one. Maybe I am just not twiddling the right knobs. Or maybe my opinion of whats going on changes once I get it in the band mix tomorrow night.
When I run any 2, I get distinctive goodness happening. But when I run all 3, it sounds like a fatter (and better) Subsonic+Joshwah, but so far, I have not found a fundamentally different tone. Maybe there isn't one. Maybe I am just not twiddling the right knobs. Or maybe my opinion of whats going on changes once I get it in the band mix tomorrow night.
And I will say that that Doom2 > YYZ Shapeshifter = something I am very much looking forward to using at rehearsal tomorrow.
You may want to lower the gain on the JW since that is likely overriding the D2 sound. The JW didn't work so well for me as a synth-based envelope filter and I believe it has to do with the unadjustable attack speed. Perhaps lower Sensitivity can also help get you different sounds with the D2 in front.
A short little, spacy sound clip I made with an OC2-Doom 2-Meatball clone (Ftelletronica) synth chain. You may want to turn the speakers down at first, it came out a little hot.
I thought for sure these would drop on 4/4 at 4:44 PM
I haven't needed/wanted an octave pedal in a bit, but man I wish Spencer would make one in a larger enclosure - if there was going to be two footswitches. I'd be all over that but maybe I'm in the minority on that idea. Given his attention to detail in every aspect of making these pedals, it's probably hard to get new pedal enclosures designed and produced. The new 3.33 looks great though!
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Wait, does that mean we no longer get to choose between two octave sounds via the "Tim" switch?
The two octave sounds have historically been accessed via the tone knob, not the Time switch. It's a sort of OC-2 on one side and a sort of Octave Divider on the other. The Tim switch is a lowering, or possibly removal, of any built-in high pass filtering of the octave signal.
OK, it sounds reasonable. but it still means the new version removed that option.
It might be problematic.
My creative misreading of the digital clock-type font used in the controls labels:
CLEARN OVERLORD OCTRUE
TOME SUB
It's also annoying that he kept the small trimmer instead of doing 4 identical knobs like on the Proton
To me, this kind of detail is a tell for why it’s considered a minor version update not a full revision.
I fully agree, it looks… off. Proton and Doom 2 aesthetics are much better.
