4x10 + 2x10...?

[zartalexander]

So I've been trying to find a non-ported 6x10 for a while and the only thing I come across is the Bergantino ones (which are discontinued and expensive).

The only solution I came up with thus far is combining a 2x10 with a 4x10. I would go with an 8x10 because that's my favorite sound with my amp. But I don't have the room for that right now, but I could split up the former for enough space. I figured that would be the closest thing tonally.

I was thinking of getting a Ampeg 410HE and finding a 210HE to go with it. The only thing is, I don't know if they are compatible with my amp. I'm using an SVT-CL which is 300 watts, but the 210HE says it handles 200 watts. This might be a stupid question (still don't have a firm grasp on this stuff) but does the 300w have to go to each cab, or is it for the whole rig?

Thoughts? Alternatives?

 

[CL400Peavey]

You are going to be hard pressed to find a 610 alignment that is going to match the impedance of your OT, and have proper power distribution to your drivers. If you want a sealed 610, save your pennies and get the berg.

 

[zartalexander]

If you want a sealed 610, save your pennies and get the berg.

I was afraid of that. :/

 

[zartalexander]

But assuming the impedance is good (which in this case it is), is the power distribution safe? Maybe if I upgraded the drivers?

 

[B-string]

Yes the power gets split between speakers.

 

[zartalexander]

Yes the power gets split between speakers.

That's what I thought seeing how that's how it is with one cab with multiple speakers. I guess it's safe if it's two 8 ohm cabs then.

 

[B-string]

Should not be any problem, run on the 4 ohm output on the amp head.

 

[DukeLeJeune]

You want to look at the power distribution per woofer, rather than per cab.

If the woofers are all identical, a 4-ohm 410 would combine well with an 8-ohm 210, assuming your amp is happy with the resulting 2.7-ohm load.

If the woofers in the 210 can each handle twice the power of the woofers in the 410, then both cabs can have the same impedance and you just need to be sure your amp is happy with the resulting load.

You can still combine a 210 and 410 of the same impedance even if the 410 cab has twice the power handling, but you need to be careful because the 210's woofers will be the limiting factor, and their cries of distress may be drowned out by the louder cab.

 

[Passinwind]

So I've been trying to find a non-ported 6x10 for a while and the only thing I come across is the Bergantino ones (which are discontinued and expensive).

Thoughts? Alternatives?

Low Down Sound would probably be more than happy to build something for you.

 

[B-string]

Both cabs are 8 ohm Duke, I suspect series/parallel wiring for pairs in the 410.

 

[zartalexander]

If the woofers in the 210 can each handle twice the power of the woofers in the 410, then both cabs can have the same impedance and you just need to be sure your amp is happy with the resulting load.

The two I'm looking at are both 8ohm:

http://www.ampeg.com/pdf/svt210he_svt15e.pdf
http://www.ampeg.com/pdf/svt410he.pdf

So if I understand correctly this wouldn't work because power would be distributed unevenly, right?

 

[zartalexander]

Low Down Sound would probably be more than happy to build something for you.

Maybe I should ask directly, but what's the $ range?

 

[B-string]

You're overthinking. According to some folks here Ampeg/LOUD rates their cabs realistically. A 200 watt 210 getting 150 watts is still not a problem.

 

[zartalexander]

You're overthinking. According to some folks here Ampeg/LOUD rates their cabs realistically. A 200 watt 210 getting 150 watts is still not a problem.

Oh, duh. That makes sense now. I think I just misunderstood a previous response.

 

[DukeLeJeune]

The two I'm looking at are both 8ohm:

http://www.ampeg.com/pdf/svt210he_svt15e.pdf
http://www.ampeg.com/pdf/svt410he.pdf

So if I understand correctly this wouldn't work because power would be distributed unevenly, right?

If you're pushing them hard, yes the 210 cab would be in danger because each of its woofers would be getting twice the power of the other woofers.

However you're using a 300 watt amp, so each cab would see half of that, or 150 watts. The 210 is rated at 200 watts, so I think you're safe.

 

[Passinwind]

Maybe I should ask directly, but what's the $ range?

Haven't a clue, but he has a reputation for being reasonably priced.

 

[RickenBoogie]

Too much emphasis on wattage. The SVT Cl is rated at 300 watts, yes, but capable of much more than that. The 410/210 combination is less than ideal, as said, the 210 gets double the power per spkr vs the 410. I would consider another set-up, maybe a pair of 2x12 cabs instead.

 

[Sid the Kid]

http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_I...erhouseCABS/Trad-PowerhouseCabs-MAIN-2012.htm

The 6x10 is sealed and is a well built box. Maybe a bit heavy but seems like it would suit your needs.

 

[CL400Peavey]

But assuming the impedance is good (which in this case it is), is the power distribution safe? Maybe if I upgraded the drivers?

Ill be the dissenting opinion. The SVT may be rated at 300 watts, but that is clean power, and is capable of a lot more if you are pushing the amp. The 210 will have a short life.

 

[chris_b]

Get the Berg.

In my biased opinion, it's a far better cab.