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4x10 + 2x10...?

#22
It can work with a 4-ohm 410 & an 8-ohm 210 if the amp supports a 2-ohm load. Otherwise a pretty poor (& dicey) choice. The 610 LDS option is an excellent one. An even better option is a 412 (or two 212s).
 
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#23
put the 210 on top of the 410. Use your ears when you're pushing it. The 210 will see half of your amps power and will be pushed harder than the 410. Not the end of the world, and no, the 210 won't have a short life unless you don't use your ears. 210s can handle a TON of gigs on their own, and with another 410s you're going to have a formidable rig. Most important info you can provide us is- what type of gigs, rehearsals, music, and stage levels do you typically run up against? If you're playing small bars, clubs, etc and you're guitarists don't have monster stacks, there's a great chance a single 410 is enough. If that get's pushed too hard, adding another 210 can make all the difference. Again, just depends on your needs in the real world.
 
#24
I quote myself from a similar thread. (These Ampeg questions come up a lot...)
Mixing the SVT-410HE and SVT-210HE will probably not work well. Those cabinets are (in spite of their similar names) very different from each other. The 410HE is a sealed cabinet - half an 810 with rolled off lows, slightly growly low mids and limited excursion. The 210HE is basically half an 410HLF, vented cabinet with deep tuning, long excursion transducers and a bit shy in the upper mids.
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The transducers in the SVT-210HE are rather robust. I often run my MarkBass LMII into limiting through a single SVT-210HE, and it happily takes all of the 300 or so Watts the LMII delivers into 8 Ohms. No issues at all, no farting, creasing etc. And I use a lot of lows in my sound, often turn up the lows to 1 o'clock, also when cranking the amp.
 
#25
The key here is cab impedence. Just takes a bit of math with fractions to figure out, but if both cabs are 8 ohms, they'll each get 150 watts (max) from the head. Ideally you want each speaker getting the same wattage, so an 8 ohm 2x10 and a 4 ohm 4x10 would put 100 watts (max) into the 2x10 and 200 watts in to the 4x10. Total load to amp is 2.7 ohms though.

Custom made cabinets using 6 ohm speakers could be made to have the total load be 4 or 8 ohms.

Also, if you have room for a 4x10 and 2x10, you should have room for an 8x10, unless your vehicle can't carry that big a cab.
 
#26
I'll throw my vote in for the Bergantino option.
I was looking for the same thing for the past 4 months, and finally found a used NV610 on ebay last month with a CA seller.
IME, used NV610's are out there, but most here on TB are on the east coast and sellers do not want to mess with shipping (which I can kind of understand, given the weight and size of the cab).

So, my advice to the OP, based on my own recent experience, is be patient, and one will pop up.

Oh, by the way, you will NOT be disappointed. My new/used Berg is really a thing of beauty when paired with all my current amps:
Ampeg SVT 6Pro, Fender Studio Bass, Mesa Walkabout (excellent match) and even my little used PF500.

if all else fails, you can also reach out to Juan at Bass and Beyond in Sac, and see if he still has one remaining NV610T.

good luck. good things come to those who wait.
 
#29
How much power the speakers see all comes down to the impedances of the individual speakers and how they're wired. They could all see the same power or be very different. It all depends. The other half of it is making sure your amp is stable at the resulting overall impedance. Choose your cabs carefully and make sure you know how they're wired. There's a website that can help you calculate impedances and power speaker impedance.co.uk
 
#32
An alternative which would eliminate the uneven powering of the drivers would be to get three of the 8-ohm sealed 210 cabs. That gives you six 10" drivers in sealed cabs and they're all splitting the power evenly. Of course it will still look like a 2.7 ohm load to your amp.

Raf
 
#38
It'll work. The Berg is better. It's POSSIBLE to make it such that all the speakers see the same power, by using an 8 ohm 210 and a 4 ohm 410. This will result in a 2.6 ohm total load which is almost certainly safe for the 4 ohm tap on the amp as it's a tube amp. If you check the amp stickies you'll find this information. Does it matter much to make them all see the same power? As others have said, in this case no. It's not ideal but it's fine.
 
#39
SanDiegoHarry said:
Huh - Well, I've seen them on TB Classifieds. TB folks have *class* and so you good gear!
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as I said, at least for the past 4-5 months, while I did see some NV610's FS on TB classifieds, sellers were mostly located on the East Coast and did not want to deal with shipping. There was one in Colorado too in that time period, but again, the seller did not want to ship.

Believe me, I was looking several times per week. I did see an NV425 locally in NCal, good price too, but I let it slip away.

its all good now, as I did finally find one. great price on a barely touched NV610. great cab. love the sealed cab sound.
 

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