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Yep, it had already been done with the Dead's augmented PA system at the Watkins Glen Summer Jam in 1973 if not before.
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A Just For Fun Thread - "Coolest looking cabs\stacks"
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Yep, it had already been done with the Dead's augmented PA system at the Watkins Glen Summer Jam in 1973 if not before.
Somehow in my various escapades of looking at gear, I came across this....the mixing console used at the California Jam.
Custom built by Tychobrae
Analogeezer
That's the great John Entwistle, he knew what he had to use, who the hell are you to say that, a nobody.
Relax...checkout a sense of humor and lookup the word irony...it's located in a dictionary...in a library!
Geez...lol
If Geddy didn't start out with stacks back in the '70s he would have gotten noticed with the music he was playing.
I ran this Mesa amp rack setup and EV cabinet for about 15 years before it got too heavy (I got too old) and I sold the cab.
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I always lusted after a Mesa Basis M 2000 - tweaker's heaven 
The EV cab probably sounded great, but must have been a nightmare to lift and move
The EV cab probably sounded great, but must have been a nightmare to lift and move
I always lusted after a Mesa Basis M 2000 - tweaker's heaven
The EV cab probably sounded great, but must have been a nightmare to lift and move
The EV-B215M cab weighs 117 lbs. I used to be able to lift it myself, but a few years ago it just got too hard and I was risking hurting myself.
I sold it last year to a musician who intended to keep it in a studio so it wouldn't have to move. He now has it paired with a Mesa TT800 and it sounds glorious.
It's an interesting cab to record if you use 2 mics. One mic for one of the 15s and another mic for the 6" mid.
I wish they still made rack tuners. I think there’s still a place for them. A high quality tuner with a really clean pass through. Foot switchable. Silent when engaged. Doesn’t even have to be a full rack. Half rack would be fine. Doesn’t have to be a fancy display. I just need to be able to see it in the dark. And the manufacturer should throw in a 1’ high quality cable. Runs on some kind of lithium battery that I can charge through USB with mega hours of standby time. (I don’t want more things to have to plug in)
Is it just me?
I love my Pitchblack Pro rack tuner. No footswitch, and it would probably be more of a hassle to find a way to power it with a battery pack, but it looks awesome and works great. Made a great accessory for my Bassman 400 and now it sits above my 700rb in it's rack (and I swore I'd never go back to rack gear, smh). The Sabine that @hbarcat has is also a good unit - but I've not seen anything that looks as cool as the Korg, and it's thin and lightweight. I have the mini version on my pedal board and a Snark pedal tuner also. The Snark is dead quiet (I was getting a buzz with my Pitchblack poly pedals) but it doesn't pick up the low F# very well - the Korg does.
Raz
Korg Pitchblack Pro (great for strobing during setups)
That Korg Pitch Black is the only rack tuner available.
Maybe I’ll will try one based on your recommendation.
I still wish they made a new modern generation.
It’s long overdue.
Maybe I’ll will try one based on your recommendation.
I still wish they made a new modern generation.
It’s long overdue.
I think the new next generation has a barista section that makes and adds milk to your latte!
Lol Or maybe one that is wireless and or doesn’t need a power plug and maybe only a half rack size. A good tuner update for someone who thinks outside the box is long overdue.
Interesting ideas...
Half-track then needs an adapter to fit in a rack. Wireless would add costs, very likely degrade signal quality while tuning and no power plug means batteries that (a) must be replaced, or (b) must be recharged (that requires a plug), or (c) could fail or degrade to the point of (1) a mess, (2) a fire (3) inaccurate tuning.
The Korg Pitchblack Pro weight is possibly no more than 1 lbs, operates on a 12-15v (+ center IIRC) wall wort and is extremely accurate.
Routing options, mute and a cable tester are nice. $99 is perfect and it looks like RoboCop...
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
I mean all due respect @PhatBottomBass1 but what you lay out as barriers is the definition of NOT thinking outside the box.
As opposed to pointing out the benefits of a traditional rack mount tuner which have virtually disappeared and pointing out the potential downside of a new tuner thats “better” in my view why not look at the upside of what I think would be good innovation. It’s how stuff is improved. Thinking what can be done and not what can’t be done.
A half rack adapter cost a couple of dollars.
You think it would degrade the signal. I dont think it has to if it’s connected via a cable to an amp and it’s done properly.
Your argument against battery powered stuff (all battery powered stuff?) like say a wireless guitar systems is true. Batteries eventually fail and or need to be recharged. But batteries are much better than they were and I have no problem recharging something that valuable. I think considering what a tuner does and for how long when it’s engaged the battery life should be very long for each charge.
I mean if you have not adopted ANY technological advances in our world then good for you if it makes you happy. That’s the bottom line. If it works for you.
I personally love technological advances. I’m 61. I’ve been an early adopter my whole life.
I had the first of everything as it came out.
The rack mount tuner business is essentially dead.
Why not revive it with something that fits in the year 2022?
I think it can be done.
Anything can likely be done.
Most pedal tuners do not run on batteries with most players having a power supply on pedalboards or daisy-chains. (Boss TU-3s comes to mind. They dropped a battery compartment and made it smaller.) No more dead batteries mucking up the environment!
If wireless is needed, then use a wireless for your instrument. Problem solved, most likely.
The half-rack means a smaller display...harder to see at a distance.
I'm all for innovation, but practical considerations often keep better mouse traps from being produced. When a market is serviced and no real clammering being made for one to satisfy a profitable demand. I wouldn't get into that area with the Korg Pitchblack Pro doing it so well and other great pedal tuners.
My first patent was a belt with a buckel that worked like any other belt, but didn't scratch the back of a guitar. Obviously, there are people who just take off their belt. But many people liked it a lot.
Ya never know where the next great idea is going to come from!
I think a better mouse trap has been invented and are continually improving.
Why not a better tuner.
At least from my point of view a better tuner.
If you like what you have good for you.
Why not a better tuner.
At least from my point of view a better tuner.
If you like what you have good for you.
Yeah I think you can still buy a Behringer rack tuner but they do seem to have all gone away.
The Korgs are readily available on the used market (and not expensive), I have two of them (in two different racks for two different setups) and they are great.
As far as plugging them in, both of my racks have rackmount PSU's, with lights, voltage and amperage displays (these displays have come in rather handy to ID janky power).
So the Korgs just get plugged into the back of those along with the amp and other stuff (in the larger rack).
I also have a Peterson Strobostomp HD but I put that on top of the amp(s) I use it with.
I just really dislike pedals, they get in the way, you trip over them and they are down on that gross floor/stage so many venues have.
Analogeezer
