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A Very Peculiar Dilemma

Hi all, sorry for the extensive post.

In about September of last year, a musician friend of mine asked me if I could play two songs for someone who asked him to play bass but he couldn't do it, so he passed it down to me. A simple order, two Megadeth songs (Mechanix and Dread and the Fugitive Mind). Problem was, I was going on a family trip for the week prior to the gig (I was approached 8 days prior), leaving me with a day to practice right before the gig. I accepted and got the gig done. What I wasn't told was that my friend that was asked to play bass actually ended up having to play drums, as the drummer had dropped out of the gig two weeks beforehand, and on the day of the gig the rhythm guitarist left the guys band. Gig went fine all things considered, and I managed to lay down the low end with minimal complications.

Fast forward a week and I'm asked to become the permanent bassist, the guy is a pretty gun guitarist so I agreed, I'm also not opposed to playing something a bit heavier than most things I end up getting roped in to play for, especially if there's coin involved. Turns out he had dropped both the drummer and guitarist, don't blame him but he also didn't have any replacements lined up.

He calls me one day to inform me he's got a gig...playing some acoustic songs...under our metal band moniker...on the side of the road...playing CCR and Seals and Croft covers. I obviously ask why we're doing this under the name of our metal band, as the gig is not gonna be attracting what I would say is our target audience. Also turns out that this is an "exposure gig", but I still agree as a gig is a gig after all. He learns up two rehearsals, one a week before the gig and one the morning of as it was pretty late in the day and the street was quite literally across the road from our rehearsal space. The first rehearsal goes fine, barre him telling me that he didn't want me to play my fretless because it was "too hard for him to see what I was playing".

The morning of the gig he tells me he can't make it to the rehearsal, I'm quite peeved as I had trekked all my gear over to the rehearsal space and could have just stayed at home but whatever, songs are easy as. We get to gig time, I rock up and greet the people playing before us and set up.

Time to play and 5 minutes passes with no sign of guitarist...10 minutes...15 and I give him a call to no response...30 minutes...43 minutes he finally rocks up but he's forgotten his music. I'm genuinely starstruck when it takes ANOTHER 30 MINUTES for his MOTHER to rock up with his music. Considering he picked all of these songs how he couldn't learn the collective ten chords between them is beyond me. He leaves, no goodbye, no apology, no thanks to the people organising the gig or myself and leaves me to help them back down, an hour after they were supposed to. After the gig I call him and tell him if he screws up like that again I'm out, as that was genuinely appalling behaviour.

He's finally found a drummer after about two months of searching, and organises a rehearsal but asks if I want to switch to rhythm guitar, as he wants two guitars but can't find a rhythm guitarist. I tell him that it's gonna be much harder to find a bassist than a guitarist but for the fun of it go along with it, as I've been playing guitar for a while but I'm still a much better bassist than guitarist.

Radio silence for a week and he asks if I wanna jam, I reply with "who's the bassist", he tells me we don't have one, and then asks if we should bring back the drummer HE kicked out as the bassist. This is the nail in the coffin, I tell him I'm out.

My question is...was I the stupid one for staying with it for this long? Have you ever experienced anyone like this before?
 
Wow - that is quite the story.

To question 1:
Please set a benchmark for associates, (none of us are perfect, but) dedication and reliability and communication are an absolute minimum requirement for a band

Question 2: To a smaller extent, yes

Not sure if it is a 'bassist thing', but I tend to over - analyze and over - explain everything, like you just did.

Thanks for sharing your story and I wish you good times and better days with playing live.
 
... After the gig I call him and tell him if he screws up like that again I'm out, as that was genuinely appalling behaviour.

My question is...was I the stupid one for staying with it for this long? Have you ever experienced anyone like this before?

I gotta say, if I'd made that phone call it'd have been a straight quit...giving him the chance to do something similaar again just seems daft.

I get that it's hard to find gigs sometimes, even not ideal ones ... and I'm at a stage in my life where my tolerance levels for poor behaviour are pretty much non-existent, so I'm not gonna say you were stupid, but if you let people walk all over you, that's what they're gonna do.
 
After that first experience (I really love the part about how his Mom had to bring the charts), there would have NEVER been a second, as I'd have been long gone.

Life is Too Short to deal with crap like that. Being on time and ready has to be a given, not something you got to chase someone around and around to do, and I'm supposed to be here to play music, not be a supporting actor in a soap opera.
 
That guy is a joker and made you the punchline.

Sorry for the loss of your time & effort.

If it makes you feel any better, today I took my e36 out for a Rotor & Parking Drum De-Rusting around the neighborhood and after they started feeling & sounding smooth I perfectly nailed 5/8 attempts at rev matching 3rd-1st downshifts while braking into some tight 80-100° turns. Vroom vroom! It was fun. Some of my neighbors paused their yard work to give me a thumbs up or wave. It was nice, it made driving feel like a performance-art piece. So dumb.

eta- it could be a good side project to keep going just for the sake of obtaining funnysad/sadfunny stories of this guy who probably is realistically suffering some undiagnosed or just untreated mental issue so as to compile them as outcomes of whatever symptom it is he needs to be addressing if/when he wants to get his life together.

You definitely need to be networking to be finding well adjusted, professional-minded, music-educated, instrument playing adults to form a band with for your own sanity.
 
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After that first experience (I really love the part about how his Mom had to bring the charts), there would have NEVER been a second, as I'd have been long gone.

Life is Too Short to deal with crap like that. Being on time and ready has to be a given, not something you got to chase someone around and around to do, and I'm supposed to be here to play music, not be a supporting actor in a soap opera.
I couldn't have said it better. My only regrets in music have been the amount of time spent dealing with other people's drama. We all learn this lesson at some point, and now you have too.
 
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Yes you are, but I wouldn’t call yourself stupid. I’ve played on and off with a phenomenally talented guitarist whose life mimics your friend’s. I played with him periodically because he’s a great musician but also a friend. At one point I had to stop playing with him to save my sanity and I chalked it up to learning a lesson about who/how I want to spend my musical time with.
Don’t beat yourself up about it, but also, don’t waste your time with this person who isn’t going to change.
 
You're not being fair to yourself if you judge a previous decision after the fact based on how things actually turned out. You can only fairly judge a previous decision in light of the information you had at the time. In this case, given the information you had at the time, I think you made reasonable decisions; you couldn't possibly have anticipated the train wreck that was to follow. Yes, maybe you stuck with this guy longer than some people would have, but if he hadn't turned out to be such a flake we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. Give yourself a break.
 
Hi all, sorry for the extensive post.

In about September of last year, a musician friend of mine asked me if I could play two songs for someone who asked him to play bass but he couldn't do it, so he passed it down to me. A simple order, two Megadeth songs (Mechanix and Dread and the Fugitive Mind). Problem was, I was going on a family trip for the week prior to the gig (I was approached 8 days prior), leaving me with a day to practice right before the gig. I accepted and got the gig done. What I wasn't told was that my friend that was asked to play bass actually ended up having to play drums, as the drummer had dropped out of the gig two weeks beforehand, and on the day of the gig the rhythm guitarist left the guys band. Gig went fine all things considered, and I managed to lay down the low end with minimal complications.

Fast forward a week and I'm asked to become the permanent bassist, the guy is a pretty gun guitarist so I agreed, I'm also not opposed to playing something a bit heavier than most things I end up getting roped in to play for, especially if there's coin involved. Turns out he had dropped both the drummer and guitarist, don't blame him but he also didn't have any replacements lined up.

He calls me one day to inform me he's got a gig...playing some acoustic songs...under our metal band moniker...on the side of the road...playing CCR and Seals and Croft covers. I obviously ask why we're doing this under the name of our metal band, as the gig is not gonna be attracting what I would say is our target audience. Also turns out that this is an "exposure gig", but I still agree as a gig is a gig after all. He learns up two rehearsals, one a week before the gig and one the morning of as it was pretty late in the day and the street was quite literally across the road from our rehearsal space. The first rehearsal goes fine, barre him telling me that he didn't want me to play my fretless because it was "too hard for him to see what I was playing".

The morning of the gig he tells me he can't make it to the rehearsal, I'm quite peeved as I had trekked all my gear over to the rehearsal space and could have just stayed at home but whatever, songs are easy as. We get to gig time, I rock up and greet the people playing before us and set up.

Time to play and 5 minutes passes with no sign of guitarist...10 minutes...15 and I give him a call to no response...30 minutes...43 minutes he finally rocks up but he's forgotten his music. I'm genuinely starstruck when it takes ANOTHER 30 MINUTES for his MOTHER to rock up with his music. Considering he picked all of these songs how he couldn't learn the collective ten chords between them is beyond me. He leaves, no goodbye, no apology, no thanks to the people organising the gig or myself and leaves me to help them back down, an hour after they were supposed to. After the gig I call him and tell him if he screws up like that again I'm out, as that was genuinely appalling behaviour.

He's finally found a drummer after about two months of searching, and organises a rehearsal but asks if I want to switch to rhythm guitar, as he wants two guitars but can't find a rhythm guitarist. I tell him that it's gonna be much harder to find a bassist than a guitarist but for the fun of it go along with it, as I've been playing guitar for a while but I'm still a much better bassist than guitarist.

Radio silence for a week and he asks if I wanna jam, I reply with "who's the bassist", he tells me we don't have one, and then asks if we should bring back the drummer HE kicked out as the bassist. This is the nail in the coffin, I tell him I'm out.

My question is...was I the stupid one for staying with it for this long? Have you ever experienced anyone like this before?

You definitely weren't stupid, but consider it a learning moment. The very first red flag was a gig where you were only playing two songs. Then a series of red flags occurred after that.
 

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