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Aguilar DB112

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B-Money

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Sep 7, 2014
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Hello all!

I was hoping that someone will be able to help me out with this question!

I'm in the market for a new amp and I'm somewhere around 98% sure that the DB112 is what I'm going to go for! (I've already got the Tonehammer 500) Funds stop me being able to get both at the same time so I'll have to wait a month or 3 before having the DB112 stack.

My question is how does it compare to the SL112? My friend has a single SL112 and I'm not 100% impressed with it. At low volume's it sounds amazing, and I'm sure a stack would too, but it doesn't seem to be able to go that loud before farting out! I swear I've pushed my 10 year old ashdown 150 watt combo amp harder and louder than his SL112 and not had the farting out happen.

I really like the DB112, and from what I read on here so do lots of other people, but just want to check if anyone has experience of a single one being able to hold it's own in a band environment? My band is a type of indie rock, 2 guitarists but no distortion and not the hardest hitting drummer in the world but we have our rock out parts!

If anyone can help with this to push me over the edge to hit the order button or not, it would be massively appreciated!

Thanks!
 
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B-Money said:
Hello all!

I was hoping that someone will be able to help me out with this question!

I'm in the market for a new amp and I'm somewhere around 98% sure that the DB112 is what I'm going to go for! (I've already got the Tonehammer 500) Funds stop me being able to get both at the same time so I'll have to wait a month or 3 before having the DB112 stack.

My question is how does it compare to the SL112? My friend has a single SL112 and I'm not 100% impressed with it. At low volume's it sounds amazing, and I'm sure a stack would too, but it doesn't seem to be able to go that loud before farting out! I swear I've pushed my 10 year old ashdown 150 watt combo amp harder and louder than his SL112 and not had the farting out happen.

I really like the DB112, and from what I read on here so do lots of other people, but just want to check if anyone has experience of a single one being able to hold it's own in a band environment? My band is a type of indie rock, 2 guitarists but no distortion and not the hardest hitting drummer in the world but we have our rock out parts!

If anyone can help with this to push me over the edge to hit the order button or not, it would be massively appreciated!

Thanks!
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Never owned the SL112 but know people that have and they tell the same story. Farts out easily and has no punch. I did own a DB112 and although it had a much bigger sound I was able to get it to fart out much easier than my Bergantino. It was also very awkward to move around due to its size. If I were going to buy an Aguilar 112 it would be the GS112.
 
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Low Class, IMHO getting the GS's to fart out requires a stupid amount of power and one should be adding more cabinets to get the sound volume desired and not pushing either a single or a pair towards their limits. One GS112 gets fairly loud, but a pair get really loud and sound significantly better at volume than any single GS112.

I've even heard of people adding a third on amps that can drive the low impedance and can only imagine how loud they are. For me, I'm not playing anything near the volume required for two GS112's and am looking to go much lower power and smaller size - and use the mains and/or a wedge when stupid volume (read that as ear protection is mandatory).

John
 
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jharms80439 said:
Low Class, IMHO getting the GS's to fart out requires a stupid amount of power and one should be adding more cabinets to get the sound volume desired and not pushing either a single or a pair towards their limits. One GS112 gets fairly loud, but a pair get really loud and sound significantly better at volume than any single GS112.

I've even heard of people adding a third on amps that can drive the low impedance and can only imagine how loud they are. For me, I'm not playing anything near the volume required for two GS112's and am looking to go much lower power and smaller size - and use the mains and/or a wedge when stupid volume (read that as ear protection is mandatory).

John
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You obviously misread my post!
 
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I recently picked up a single DB112NT. I'm into old-school thick flatwound bass tone, so the fact that it has a cast-frame speaker with a nice heavy magnet and no tweeter is a plus in my mind. The overall sound I get through it is perfect; warm, very clear and articulate, without sounding thin or brittle. Obviously it doesn't have as much low end boom as my 1x18 cabs have, but it sits in the mix exceptionally well.
We played an outdoor festival gig the other day and the soundman wouldn't put any bass through the monitors. I was running my 100watt tube Carvin amp through the 112 at about half volume. The stage was pretty spacious and the amp was off to the side and about 10ft behind me. The entire gig I had no issue hearing myself. In a weird way, even though the cab is not super loud, it still projected and cut through the mix very well.
I love mine. Thinking about the ratio size:weight:sound, it's my favorite so far.
 
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If I misread, you have my sincere apologies.

Actually I thought I was on your side of the conversation! IMHO, (and as in your assessment) GS's are waaaay better than the DB/SL's.

FYI, I'm running 600 watts (AI Contra) into two GS and don't take the pre over 12 o'clock and the master over ~2 o'clock - otherwise it is too loud for the stage.

John
 
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jharms80439 said:
If I misread, you have my sincere apologies.

Actually I thought I was on your side of the conversation! IMHO, (and as in your assessment) GS's are waaaay better than the DB/SL's.

FYI, I'm running 600 watts (AI Contra) into two GS and don't take the pre over 12 o'clock and the master over ~2 o'clock - otherwise it is too loud for the stage.

John
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sorry, guess I interpreted it the wrong way.
 
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Thanks all for your replies! Def food for thought! I'm just swaying between a DB112 stack or the DB212 and just wondering how much I can get away with using just a single DB112 in practice environments and what not (commonly known as 'being lazy').

I think I'm pretty much set on the DB112 stack so I at least can keep the weight of individual cabs down!
 
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RickenBoogie said:
I own and use a DB112, but wouldn't consider it by itself. In a band you need volume, and no single driver cab will get you there. A pair of them is another story.
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+1

I use a pair of DB112NT's and one is just enough to get by in a small bar with a trio and rehearsals, but I will usually take both to small /medium - large venue.
Having two 112's is easy for me to transport and offers the split option which is great for those small gigs and rehearsals.

Love the sound of them with TH-350, Shuttle 9.2 and GK400RB (retired), highly recommend, but it's all about personal taste.
 
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Honestly, no. I haven't really considered a great deal of other amps prior to settling on Aguilar (I did think of Hartke, Ampeg etc..) but not Baer. Until recently coming onto the TB forums I'd never heard of Baer before (or Bergantino for that matter!)

Is there a massive amount of difference between the Baer and the Aguilar? I quite like the tone you get from the DB112's - does Baer just trump it?
 
#13
I found the DB's to have a big bottom end and not as much mid/treble definition as I like... They got lost in the mix. I did not care for the awkward shape (deeper than most 112's) or the rear porting.

The ML cabs retain a solid low end while being much more articulate They also have the advantage of being about 10lbs lighter. One ML112 should definitely be gigable depending on your situation.

I also owned a Bergantino CN112 stack (that setup gets a lot of love on Talkbass) but I much prefer the sound of my Baer cab.

Ultimately a lot of this comes down to personal preference and your own sonic goals but it always helps to have options.
 
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I downsized from a Mesa Bass 400 (not +) and two 1-15 Mesa cabinets to the Aggie TH500 and two DB112nt cabs. One cab should cover anything in a bar / club short of LOUD rock. With both cabs, you'll be fine unless you have deaf guitar players with full stacks on 11. If you do have deaf, dual stack guitards, just double the whole rig; two TH500s and four DB112nt cabs. I'm always looking for another pair of DB112nt cabs at a good price, just in case......... stacked four high (horizontal position), that would be a stack with seismic capabilities
 
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I have a TH500 + (2) SL 112's...sounds great...haven't had the farting out situation. Got to see Jeff Coffin's Mu'tet about a year ago at 3rd & Lindsley B&G. It's a medium size room...Felix Pastorious was playing a Fodera 6 thru my same rig. I may have farted that night...don't recall his rig doing it...sounded good to me.
 
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Topkat13 said:
I have a TH500 + (2) SL 112's...sounds great...haven't had the farting out situation. Got to see Jeff Coffin's Mu'tet about a year ago at 3rd & Lindsley B&G. It's a medium size room...Felix Pastorious was playing a Fodera 6 thru my same rig. I may have farted that night...don't recall his rig doing it...sounded good to me.
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Good post. Yes, there are too many of these Sl112s out there for all of them to be "farting out". If this was true the world would blow up when a match was lit. HA HA
Actually, I just ordered two SL112s for the store and my plan is, if I like them, I will order me a pair (well heck, I will probably buy those and order the store another pair). Just too much to like about their weight - gonna try them with a 1.5 lb Traynor amp.
 
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Topkat13 said:
I have a TH500 + (2) SL 112's...sounds great...haven't had the farting out situation. Got to see Jeff Coffin's Mu'tet about a year ago at 3rd & Lindsley B&G. It's a medium size room...Felix Pastorious was playing a Fodera 6 thru my same rig. I may have farted that night...don't recall his rig doing it...sounded good to me.
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I agree totally with the above I have two SL112's as well and plenty loud for me in a rock covers band with 2 guitarists.
No farting from the bass section, but our drummers farts, that is a different matter.....
 
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Thanks for all your feedback guys! Maybe it was just using 1 SL112 in a moderate band setting that made me feel underwhelmed about it. 2 12's is definitely what I want to go for!

With that said, I have been offered a great deal on a 4ohm DB212 cab! I think I may go for it as it'd be too good not to - does anyone have any experience if these are as good as 2xDB112's or 2xSL112's?
 

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