Albums Are Dead - Ola Englund's Thoughts

[Son of Wobble]

$900 million? Did she discover a cure for cancer or something?

Primarily revenue from slapping her name on another wise already available formula of lip gloss.
Plus spare change in the tens of millions from part of the family TV franchise revenue.
Also, her individualized App was by far the most successful of all the sisters.


For all those who know so much better than the Kardashians, I will remind you that Kylie's uncle Kanye
West (married to her sister Kim) said on Twitter, "I don't take advice from anyone less successful than me."

 

[Son of Wobble]

^^^^

Per the above post, for context of Kylie's wealth made in cosmetics, consider the market as a whole:


Dallas, United States – March 13, 2018 —

The global cosmetic products market was valued at USD 532.43 billion in 2017, and is expected to reach a market value of USD 805.61 billion by 2023

Global Cosmetics Products Market expected to reach USD 805.61 billion by 2023 - Reuters

 

[Son of Wobble]

Kylie Cosmetics, the online retailer where 20-year-old Kylie Jenner sells US$27 lip kits and US$42 "kyshadow" palettes, racked up more than US$420 million in sales in just 18 months. Its advertising efforts are minimal, largely consisting of Jenner's Instagram account, which has more than 99 million followers.

The brand's success illustrates the way millennials — who may spend hours on social media platforms watching video bloggers and following so-called influencers — are rewriting the rules. And brands are racing to evolve with the quickly changing market.


https://business.financialpost.com/...keup-driving-a-boom-in-the-cosmetics-industry

 

[InternetAlias]

For all those who know so much better than the Kardashians, I will remind you that Kylie's uncle Kanye
West (married to her sister Kim) said on Twitter, "I don't take advice from anyone less successful than me."

Sayings like these have always irked me to no end. Success comes in many forms. There are people who are well off but who are in no way fulfilled by the money. Then there are also people who have barely anything but are very happy and content. Who is really the "successful" one?

The richest person I know personally is the emptiest shell of a person I've ever met in my life. The second richest person I know, however, is very fulfilled, and uses her riches to fund her hobby as an oil painter. It doesn't sound like much, but having everything taken care of and being able to enjoy your hobbies is actually all one might need to be truly successful at life, including happiness.

The richest person I know, on the other hand, is just an average dork who has rich parents. His "success" was in being born to a rich family, he has no interests, no hobbies, he just drinks himself to near death every weekend and takes drugs, just because he's so "successful".

Kanye West is successful at what he does, but I would never trade my current state for his 'success' but 'also being a dumbass'. While I don't exactly envy anyone, the only rich people I can truly call successful are those who are also not dumbasses about things that do not lead to financial gain. As such, I'd never wish to be like Kanye West because that includes a dumbass, but I'd like to be someone like Devin Townsend, who, while not rich in any sort of a way, is a madman composer with a great voice and creative force who is also a great human being.

 

[Son of Wobble]

Sayings like these have always irked me to no end. Success comes in many forms. There are people who are well off but who are in no way fulfilled by the money. Then there are also people who have barely anything but are very happy and content. Who is really the "successful" one?

The richest person I know personally is the emptiest shell of a person I've ever met in my life. The second richest person I know, however, is very fulfilled, and uses her riches to fund her hobby as an oil painter. It doesn't sound like much, but having everything taken care of and being able to enjoy your hobbies is actually all one might need to be truly successful at life, including happiness.

The richest person I know, on the other hand, is just an average dork who has rich parents. His "success" was in being born to a rich family, he has no interests, no hobbies, he just drinks himself to near death every weekend and takes drugs, just because he's so "successful".

Kanye West is successful at what he does, but I would never trade my current state for his 'success' but 'also being a dumbass'. While I don't exactly envy anyone, the only rich people I can truly call successful are those who are also not dumbasses about things that do not lead to financial gain. As such, I'd never wish to be like Kanye West because that includes a dumbass, but I'd like to be someone like Devin Townsend, who, while not rich in any sort of a way, is a madman composer with a great voice and creative force.

Don't tell me, tell Kanye.

 

[InternetAlias]

Don't tell me, tell Kanye.

Actually, someone already did, on twitter, and it was a pretty funny situation. I saw a screenshot of it some time ago on some facebook page, since I don't use twitter. But it's quite remarkable how empty most people like Kanye are.

 

[Son of Wobble]

Sayings like these have always irked me to no end. Success comes in many forms. There are people who are well off but who are in no way fulfilled by the money. Then there are also people who have barely anything but are very happy and content. Who is really the "successful" one?

The richest person I know personally is the emptiest shell of a person I've ever met in my life. The second richest person I know, however, is very fulfilled, and uses her riches to fund her hobby as an oil painter. It doesn't sound like much, but having everything taken care of and being able to enjoy your hobbies is actually all one might need to be truly successful at life, including happiness.

The richest person I know, on the other hand, is just an average dork who has rich parents. His "success" was in being born to a rich family, he has no interests, no hobbies, he just drinks himself to near death every weekend and takes drugs, just because he's so "successful".

Kanye West is successful at what he does, but I would never trade my current state for his 'success' but 'also being a dumbass'. While I don't exactly envy anyone, the only rich people I can truly call successful are those who are also not dumbasses about things that do not lead to financial gain. As such, I'd never wish to be like Kanye West because that includes a dumbass, but I'd like to be someone like Devin Townsend, who, while not rich in any sort of a way, is a madman composer with a great voice and creative force who is also a great human being.

Speaking of Kanye, I think he has done more for the album as an art form in the last year with the slate of albums he produced. He had this OCD idea to make all the albums concise and 7 tracks maximum, and it reignited some excitement for the form here in the US and in the music press.

The Pusha T album is super cool, in fact I'mma play it now. Thank you, Kanye, for doing more for the LP than anyone else in America! Respect!

Pusha T Explains Why All Five Kanye West-Produced Albums Are Only Seven Tracks

 

[Nevada Pete]

So first of all, that was rather insulting, if subtle... Plus, completely off base. You think "the music industry" is telling young people what music to like? The music industry is in a complete shambles, and if you understood the point of the video, you'd also understand that bands don't need "the music industry" (as it was formerly understood) to be successful, when they can control their own presence on Youtube, Bandcamp, Facebook, etc.

Holy cow! A little prickly today are we? I realized the point I was making might rub some people the wrong way, and I attempted to mitigate that while still getting across what I was trying to communicate. That is, for the benefit of anyone who might be interested since I don't have a dog in this fight right now. But alas, to no avail in your case, I guess. I am genuinely sorry I offended you. That certainly was not my intention. You may rest assured that I fully understand the point of the video, and I applaud it. And yes, given the changes in how music can be recorded and distributed, a band doesn't need a "record company", as it were, to release product. No one is arguing that point, that I know of.

I would ask you this, though. What percentage of the bands releasing their own material are in rotation or ever will be in rotation on major media outlets, or on any media outlets online or otherwise, for that matter? How many of them are making a living doing what they are doing? Answer: Very few. Not many. And that's probably not why they're doing it anyway.

Only the best of the best will ever get there. Is that you? Well, great! I respect and admire your accomplishment. Otherwise, it's a hard nut to crack, and if you can bust through, well that's what everybody including me wants to see you do. But you don't have to do that, you know, to have fun and reap the pleasures of playing music.

So I will risk saying this one more time. The media is a machine. It's not holy. It's purpose is to make money. Nothing more. The machine wants to control and homogenize what is released to the public over major media outlets because that way, there is less risk of loosing money. No, I am not saying the "music industry" is telling young people what to like. Not at all. I am saying young people by and large "like" what they are being fed (i.e., exposed to) by the major media machine. Same as everybody else (you seem to have missed that point). If this makes you angry, so be it. Feed them something you have created, and set the trend yourself, then.

 

[-Asdfgh-]

Primarily revenue from slapping her name on another wise already available formula of lip gloss.

I could do that. Might not sell as well, but I could do it.

Plus spare change in the tens of millions from part of the family TV franchise revenue.

I wouldn't do that.

Also, her individualized App was by far the most successful of all the sisters.

I don't even understand the point of that.

For all those who know so much better than the Kardashians, I will remind you that Kylie's uncle Kanye
West (married to her sister Kim) said on Twitter, "I don't take advice from anyone less successful than me."

If I knew who he was in any detail, I could comment further.

The woman worth $900 million I was not aware of the existence of until today. Thank god. I've already forgotten her name.

Truly we live in strange times.

 

[-Asdfgh-]

When I first read the thread title I thought the guy was called Old England.

 

[-Asdfgh-]

The richest person I know personally is the emptiest shell of a person I've ever met in my life. The second richest person I know, however, is very fulfilled, and uses her riches to fund her hobby as an oil painter. It doesn't sound like much, but having everything taken care of and being able to enjoy your hobbies is actually all one might need to be truly successful at life, including happiness.

If I was wealthy I like to think I'd do more music, maybe, er, put out an album, plus do some things for the community, and go on more walks with the dogs. Being able to spend more time on hobbies would be the great benefit.

There are plenty of wealthy people who do seem to give something back, such as those that (often quietly) fund schools or community projects, and it includes some celebrities. In the area of music, Peter Gabriel would be an example of someone who has done a lot for groups such as Amnesty International, and promoting World Music.

 

[Son of Wobble]

I could do that. Might not sell as well, but I could do it.

I'll buy your lip gloss.

 

[-Asdfgh-]

I'll buy your lip gloss.

I was thinking of marketing it as Old England lip gloss. It will be pillar box red and taste of tea and nuns cycling through the mist.

 

[Nevada Pete]

I was thinking of marketing it as Old England lip gloss. It will be pillar box red and taste of tea and nuns cycling through the mist.

I think your on to something.

 

[48thStreetCustom]

I am not sure I understand, as most hi-fi tube amps are run in the linear range (in that sense they are pretty much equivalent to a solid state amp run in its linear range).

I googled the info for my power amp and couldn't find any "linear range" information.

 

[-Asdfgh-]

I googled the info for my power amp and couldn't find any "linear range" information.

Hi-fi amps operate in the linear range, else they aren't hi-fi. So it doesn't need to list the linear range information. It's like my car notes the maximum speed, but on the road, not if it is pushed out of an aeroplane at 20,000 feet

 

[48thStreetCustom]

Hi-fi amps operate in the linear range, else they aren't hi-fi. So it doesn't need to list the linear range information. It's like my car notes the maximum speed, but on the road, not if it is pushed out of an aeroplane at 20,000 feet

Okay, got it. So why were you asking if my amp was opporating in the linear range? Tha went over my head.

 

[-Asdfgh-]

Okay, got it. So why were you asking if my amp was opporating in the linear range? Tha went over my head.

It was a comment on the fact that vinyl reproduction isn't as linear as a hi-fi amp, even if it's a tube amp, which for musical instrument application the non-linear range is useful. But you could add a preamp with some level of non-linearity, if you want to emulate the vinyl sound to some extent, from a non-vinyl source. Some people like the subtle additional distortion added.

 

[JimK]

I thought I was the TB King of Tangents...you guys are waaaaaayyyy out there.
Kudos.

 

[-Asdfgh-]

I thought I was the TB King of Tangents...you guys are waaaaaayyyy out there.
Kudos.

I thank you.

I will try and steer it back to the topic, what is the objective evidence albums are dead, and is it significant, given that in the 1950s and 60s the single was king, and even in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, a lot of people just bought singles, especially the 70s and 80s. Was the album really more (apart from classical) for your prog and other rock bands - ELP, Tull, Moody Blues, Beach Boys and especially Led Zep?