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All New Redesigned 2018 Music Man Stingray!

Weakest link is their neck construction which they did nothing about. They either need to use better quality cuts of hard maple, or use high modulus carbon fiber rods. They are still constructing necks like it was 50 years ago and better quality maple was plentiful and cheap.

Their cheap flat sewn maple boards in the necks are too susceptible to movement on climate changes. I cannot keep the strings low without constant adjustments to the truss rod. I have to raise the strings in order to cut down on the frequency of adjusting.

Until then, no more EBMM's for me.
 
I played the "new" Stingrays at NAMM and wasn't impressed. I only play 4-strings and have no opinion on the 5'ers, but the weight difference on the Stingray 4 was negligible. They still felt in the high 9- low 10 lb range to me. I thought the new bridge and tuners felt and looked cheaper in terms of quality. The off-the-shelf body and neck woods and fit and finish also seemed reduced from what I have seen from EB in the past.
 
Oh boy... :rollno:

The old saying about "if it isn't broken..." comes to mind. Other than the color choices (FINALLY), half of those changes I would consider downgrades and none of them would I consider upgrades. Thing is, I've had "regular Stingrays" that were in the 8 - 9 pound range. It's more a function of the hunk of wood than it is the hardware. Just have a talk with the wood buyers, guys.

It's not a huge deal to me, though, because although I used to play Stingrays and Sterlings exclusively, the only model I would even consider owning now is the Classic Series Stingray. As someone else said... they've tried to turn the Stingray into a Sterling, but there is already the Sterling model. Honestly, I'm not sure why these choices were made. Folks who play Stingrays play them because they want a Stingray, not a cross between a Stingray and a Sterling. Sadly, I think Music Man has made some very questionable choices lately. But... that's just my opinion. Carry on.
 
Love most of these changes! Skeptical about the new pickup/preamp. I've owned a few recent Rays, 2 HHs, and a HS. None of those have the punch and lively-ness that my 1993 Ray has.

That must have more to do with the additional pickup being wired in, than anything else : the Stingray pre-amp & pickup have not changed at all since about 3 years after it was introduced - ie not for several years before Ernie Ball bought the company.
 
That must have more to do with the additional pickup being wired in, than anything else : the Stingray pre-amp & pickup have not changed at all since about 3 years after it was introduced - ie not for several years before Ernie Ball bought the company.
I wasn't clear, I've owned a few H models (4 I think) in addition to the HH and HS models. At one time I owned a 2011 H, a 2013 HH, and a 2011 HS. The 93 was noticeable louder than all of them and just flat out sounds better. Pickup? Wood? Preamp? Who knows.
 
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I wasn't clear, I've owned a few H models (4 I think) in addition to the HH and HS models. At one time I owned a 2011 H, a 2013 HH, and a 2011 HS. The 93 was noticeable louder than all of them and just flat out sounds better. Pickup? Wood? Preamp? Who knows.

Same here - my ‘92 absolutely crushes every other Stingray I’ve owned. The mutes are cool too.

I think I view these new basses as actual ‘new’ basses versus a revision of an existing model.

They will be cool I’m sure, but won’t take the place of the Stingrays of old in my brain - think late ‘70s Mustangs lol
 
I usually appreciate change in models as it gives choices. I know I like certain model years of jazz basses more than others. It's been a long time since there was substantial changes to the stingray so I'm not surprised. Some are good. Some are terrible. Cutting weight is a great idea, but those tuners look stupid on the proportions of a stingray. 22 frets is awesome. I think the preamp changes will be hated by some but a different voicing is a cool option. Those bevel cuts are a BIG no! Makes it look like a 90s ibanez metal bass with any painted finish.
 
I also remember after the 125 orders didn't come in, Sterling pretty much smaed the spec hounds who had been campaigning for them.

His position was "We make the #1 selling 5 string for a reason" ie most people prefer the 17.5 spacing.

It was kind of amusing. But your point is well taken. I mean what cross section of potential buyers were n the EBMM forums back then?


You'll eat our mush and like it!
Sorry Sterling I have moved on.
I love Stingrays but the weight and the string spacing of the Vers made me search further.
That ship has sailed and I'm much happier now.
IMO you just cant slap on an 17 mm spacing like you can on 19mm might as well play an Ibanez if that spacing works for you.
To each his own.
 
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If my memories serves me well, in the early days of Lakland, they were known for repairing and modifying old Stingrays. Later on, they started building their own line of basses, which were inspired by the early Stingrays.

That is an interesting question. I think part of it is that Fender has been pretty hit or miss with quality control and rolling out features over the years (it took them forever to catch up on active electronics, and I've still yet to play an active fender that I like. MM, on the other hand, seems to have about as high of quality control as I've seen on a production bass, and the main gripes I hear about them seem to be weight, or else that the MM is just not a tone people like, that would more or less kill the whole genre.

I do think that Lakland and Sandberg have some stingray like basses, at least in the pickups department.
 
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I give Sterling Ball credit for not being afraid to make a change, but he was smart because above all else, a Stingray still looks like a Stingray. I am looking forward to trying a new even though I won’t be buying one because other than my Pedulla, I am not in the market for more basses.
 
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If my memories serves me well, in the early days of Lakland, they were known for repairing and modifying old Stingrays. Later on, they started building their own line of basses, which were inspired by the early Stingrays.
That sounds sort of familiar. And for a while at least, they seemed to have quite a few MM/J basses. I don't think they had the nasty the was a stringray does, but they were still in the ballpark
 
Oh boy... :rollno:

The old saying about "if it isn't broken..." comes to mind. Other than the color choices (FINALLY), half of those changes I would consider downgrades and none of them would I consider upgrades. Thing is, I've had "regular Stingrays" that were in the 8 - 9 pound range. It's more a function of the hunk of wood than it is the hardware. Just have a talk with the wood buyers, guys.

It's not a huge deal to me, though, because although I used to play Stingrays and Sterlings exclusively, the only model I would even consider owning now is the Classic Series Stingray. As someone else said... they've tried to turn the Stingray into a Sterling, but there is already the Sterling model. Honestly, I'm not sure why these choices were made. Folks who play Stingrays play them because they want a Stingray, not a cross between a Stingray and a Sterling. Sadly, I think Music Man has made some very questionable choices lately. But... that's just my opinion. Carry on.
I agree. Why change it just to shave a pound. I played a heavy jazz bass before my Stingray and the 'Ray seems light weight by comparison. Well balanced too.
 
Sounds awesome to me.... and it brings up a question. Im sure we've all heard of sadowsky, suhr, lull, grosh, sandberg, etc..... all sorts of companies that made great copies of Ps and Js.... but why dont we ever see boutique stingray copies?

I wonder this same thing. At $2k and up you are not paying as much of a premium to get a boutique stingray style bass. At least not compared in the premium you would pay for a boutique J or P.