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All New Redesigned 2018 Music Man Stingray!

Aluminum tuners, I've got NO issue there. It's a fine material for that, just ask anyone who uses Hipshot. That stuff is fantastic. Lighter headstocks, no rust, no change in sound. Lots of win on that.
Bridges, though, I've had some drastic sonic changes in basses that have gone from brass to aluminum. And I know there's a HUGE debate on all of that, so I'm not trying to start anything. But I would take an older, stainless mute bridge over the newer stuff 100% of the time.

Oh, and offering black hardware is a GREAT move. I've seen the stealth stuff they'd done and loved that look, especially with colors.

I'll have to hear the pickups and electronics to see how that changes things. As a fan of their "golden era" (late 80s-mid 90s), there's so much goodness and classic Stingray sound that comes with the alnico pickup and either preamp. I will definitely say, I've never boosted the treble signal on the 3 band because it could shatter glass, so toning that down may be great.

And yes, carbon supports! Why wouldn't they do that?!?! My biggest gripe with older Rays was the sensitivity to climate changes. Some were better than others, likely due to the varying quality of each neck's wood... but I think adding that would have been a really good move. If only for insurance and reliability.

Can't wait to demo one. If it comes closer to the Golden Era in terms of neck wood, playability, and punch, that's fantastic in my book. I've been less than thrilled with most of their offerings from the last 20 years, so I hope this is a step or 2 oin the right direction.
 
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There is nothing Ibanez SR about the new StingRay. I don’t get that criticism. It’s not slab, but it’s not a svelt bass by any means. The body is still a solid chunk of ash, albeit contoured smoother. It feels like a Ray. It sounds like a Ray, too. I did not hear Bongo. But how the aluminum bridge, 18v pre and neo p’ups perform in a mix, that’s TBD. I’m looking forward to putting one through it’s paces.
 
One other thing.... Am I the only one that really likes 21 frets? That is an E in standard tuning right? That makes more sense than an added fret, unless you go to 24 which of course makes sense also.

Well, I get by just fine with the 19 frets on my Mustang Basses, and I don't even notice that there are 21 frets when I play my Ps and Js (may as well have 19 frets, or for that matter, even fewer). The one thing I do notice on basses with more frets (24, for instance) is that they tend to get in the way of some of my right hand techniques.
 
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I remember that. Sterling Ball would only make them in black, so a lot of people cried about color choice, and the deal died. I guess color turned out to be more important than 19mm spacing and playability.

Welcome to what lefties go through on most basses & yes, my SR4H is black (with a matching headstock though).

Weakest link is their neck construction which they did nothing about. They either need to use better quality cuts of hard maple, or use high modulus carbon fiber rods. They are still constructing necks like it was 50 years ago and better quality maple was plentiful and cheap.

Their cheap flat sewn maple boards in the necks are too susceptible to movement on climate changes. I cannot keep the strings low without constant adjustments to the truss rod. I have to raise the strings in order to cut down on the frequency of adjusting.

Until then, no more EBMM's for me.

I don't get this one. The neck on my '03 is absolutely stable. I've adjusted it maybe twice in 12 years and even then it was only after changing string types/gauges.

I never understood the "quiet G string syndrome" or the claims of brittleness either. Idk what mine weighs but it isn't excessive at all. My old Precision knockoff was much heavier.

I'm grateful to have the one I have. I could never afford a new one and scored a great deal on mine.
 
Apparently an all new and reimagined Music Man Stingray that was debuted at NAMM 2018!

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1) Bridge size reduced and now made of aluminum for weight reduction

2) Tuners now aluminum for weight reduction

3) Crescent shaped cavity plate and knobs made of aluminum for weight reduction

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9) redesigned tuners akin to hip shot ultra lites

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In one video they claimed that between the beveling and aluminum parts they have reduced the typical weight by about 1.5 lbs.


Good lord, someone at EBMM has been hanging out way too much on TalkBass.

We already have a pared-down, lighter-weight Stingray-- it's called the Sterling!!!

Honestly, I wish they'd just turn the Stingray 4 into a 4-string version of the Stingray 5 (sculpted body, a pickguard that doesn't necessitate a rear route when extra controls are added) and get it done with!
 
Honestly, I wish they'd just turn the Stingray 4 into a 4-string version of the Stingray 5 (sculpted body, a pickguard that doesn't necessitate a rear route when extra controls are added) and get it done with!

Ewwww... yuck. Ickiness. One of two Music Man designs that I've never liked (aesthetically): Stingray 5 (hate the pickguard shape) and the Bongo... well, I just hate that one all around, period. (have always hated BMWs as well ;))

But, don't burn me at the stake! I actually kind of liked the shape of the Big Al bass (it was so ugly that it was kinda cute) and definitely liked the Reflex. :thumbsup: Overall, though, it has always been Stingray and Sterling for my tastes. The new Caprice and Cutlass are both decent looking P-basses... er, I mean basses...
 
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Dunno what to think.

I've owned over 20 Rays. They were my first "good" bass, and I have almost always had at least one in my stable.

I guess I expect them to be one specific way and to not have that is kind of irksum. That said, the weight relief and added fret is cool. I wonder what the new pre sounds like.
 
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I wasn't clear, I've owned a few H models (4 I think) in addition to the HH and HS models. At one time I owned a 2011 H, a 2013 HH, and a 2011 HS. The 93 was noticeable louder than all of them and just flat out sounds better. Pickup? Wood? Preamp? Who knows.

If it had a non-translucent finish, they used Poplar for the body in the late 80's / early 90's.

By '93 it would have had a truss rod wheel (meaning the neck is constructed differently to the skunk stripe era - though that is pretty irrelevant with a Rosewood board), and a 6 bolt neck - identical to your 2011 H.

As I said, the pre-amp & pickup have never changed after the first few revisions in the late 70's / early 80's - though of course pickup height is definitely a big factor.
 
And imagine how much extra weight, having that 22nd fret adds to the bass - I thought the goal was to shave weight off :rollno:



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Ha, ha. Well, if they wouldn't have started using those custom lead frets, it wouldn't be a problem--not to mention the brain damage issues...

Nurse in ER: Yes doctor, I sent him to the psych ward early this morning... seems he was playing a bar gig with his new Stingray and his IQ suddenly dropped by 73 points. It's those damn lead frets again. You know, Doctor, they may add bottom end, but this is getting old. How many bassist have we had in this emergency room drooling all over themselves and babbling incoherently since those Stingray upgrades? :roflmao: