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Am I Being Played?

If you can't, or don't want to move the cab all the time, perhaps going into the jack plate and taking soldering clips onto leads for the speakers, and then you could just unplug the speakers from the jacks, maybe even take the jack plate with you or something. Take the fuse out of your head, or just bring it home. I suppose those would be the simplest solutions to the "people playing your stuff without your permission" problem. More complex, would be getting some cheap MCM drivers and stuffing it into an MDF box (maybe with some extra conrete on the bottom for good measure), without wheels, nobody's running off with that thing any time soon, and for less than a hundred bucks you could fit out a halfway to decent cab for practice and not worry about replacement speakers. Then somehow get everybody to sign a conract to agree to pay a small monthly fee to use your bass gear, or at least a contract that would compel EVRYONE else to pay for broken equipment if the need arises, provided that nobody fesses up to it. I don't know how it works in your neck of the woods, but Tort law should be able to compel them to pay.

Also, I've been on the other side of your current predicament. A guy let me use his bass cabinet in a practice space that was in his house, that my band's vocalist was also living in. I'd use his bass gear, he'd use our drummer's kit sometimes, guitarists used their own amps, and we all used the PA. It all went fine until he may or may not have broken our drummer's bass drum pedal (along with some inter-personal drama between our vocalist and him, from living together), so he stopped allowing us to use bits of gear that were his, without notice. To be honest, I didn't fault him much for anything, now I've just learned from experience.
 
It depends on how much you value your gear, how much of a headache it is to lug it around as opposed to leaving it there, how well the other musicians treat it, and what the replacement cost is. If you're okay with it up to now, fine, but I'd document the equipment and keep the records of the sales receipts and serial numbers in a safe place. Theft and abuse aren't the only danger, what would you do if there was a fire?
 
Yep!
Trust, musicians without gear, wear and tear, money, thievery.

All of this.

I am trustworthy but not very trusting. A lot of weird things can happen with electronics but what is the worst one can do to a bass aside from stealing it? Break a string or crack the neck? Assuming it is not your favorite and or some outrageously priced bass and you have more than one bass of any quality this would be the piece to leave.

However, if I had just humped 50-200 Lbs of gear in and/or out then what is another 10 Lbs.

So I guess what I'm saying is I would not leave my gear.

Either haul your gear.
or
Build/buy, and anchor, a lockable storage cabinet for your gear.

Supervised use is another story.
 
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I think somebody has mentioned borrowing gear before now as well. I have a policy of, if I need to borrow gear - sometimes cars break down and you can only pack your bass and head in the back of the guitarist's 2-door - I always ask at the beginning of the night, and buy the person loaning said gear a beer.
 
I would stay away from pulling fuses, jack plates, and other "preventative measures" since it will lead to a stranger saying "Oh I can fix that!". Last thing you want to see is a paper clip jammed into the fuse holder. GC always has a ton of used cheap cabinets so pick up a no name cabinet and leave it at the rehearsal space.... bring everything else to and from. My guess is when the free ride on the your nice gear ends you will see the other bassists bringing their nicer cabinets in.

If the "cheap" cabinet disappears you know not to replace it and always haul everything in and out. Better to learn the lesson with gear you don't need/care too much.

Not to derail the thread but I have never understood people who don't want to use their own gear. Every gig/practice I have always brought my own equipment. I worked some long hours to afford the gear that I think sounds best.... why would I want to use your backline? I understand backlining a drum set for a show but switching out a bass rig takes less time than setting up cymbals and a snare.
 
I would stay away from pulling fuses, jack plates, and other "preventative measures" since it will lead to a stranger saying "Oh I can fix that!". Last thing you want to see is a paper clip jammed into the fuse holder. GC always has a ton of used cheap cabinets so pick up a no name cabinet and leave it at the rehearsal space.... bring everything else to and from. My guess is when the free ride on the your nice gear ends you will see the other bassists bringing their nicer cabinets in.

I honestly had not thought of that, I stand corrected.
 
So I share a rehearsal space with some guys in one of my bands and I leave a rig there (Markbass LM III and MB 4x10). When I have gigs that don't have a back line I'll use this rig but most of the time it lives at the space. I pay $100/month. One of the guys in the band I play with at this space is in three other bands that also use this space and he uses my gear. So far there have been no issues, the gear is always left clean. And I don't think anyone is cranking this rig or playing at peak levels. But I feel like I'm being taken advantage of since none of the other bassists using my rig have to bring anything, I also have a bass there that is probably being used, I'm getting no money from this deal, and the wear and tear on my gear is increasing because of people I don't even know. Can a cab or head get worn or damaged just from normal use? I know tubes need to be replaced occasionally but the tube in this unit is a gimmick more than anything else. Curious to hear other people's thoughts.
I wouldn't worry about the gear, I'd do the math and wonder why I'm paying $100/month while sharing a space with 12-16 other musicians.

THIS.

If you're supplying backline for three other bands, which I personally wouldn't due the possibility of theft or damage, you shouldn't be paying anything.
 
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<snip>I have never understood people who don't want to use their own gear. Every gig/practice I have always brought my own equipment. I worked some long hours to afford the gear that I think sounds best.... why would I want to use your back line? <snip>

First of all, it's not always as convenient in reality as it is in theory. Last week, I played a show where I used someone else's rig because it was dumb to have three bass rigs on the stage with limited floor space, and I didn't want to be worried about it. In absolute terms, my rig would have been the nicest of the three, but who gives a crap? I eased stage traffic, and there was no fear that I or my band would sound like anybody else that night. There isn't a competent bass rig in existence that cannot yield a serviceable tone for a knowledgeable player. Some decisions should not be made with one's ego.
 
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It does sound like the one guy in your band is funding his other projects on your band's dime. I would definitely look into the actual cost of the rehearsal space and renegotiate the cost. I wouldn't assume he is intentionally using you or others in your band... some people are just clueless when it comes to this kind of stuff.
 
I have never understood people who don't want to use their own gear. Every gig/practice I have always brought my own equipment. I worked some long hours to afford the gear that I think sounds best.... why would I want to use your backline?

Not to mention, depending on which side of the debate one is on, wouldn't this completely fly in the face of and change "your/my tone"?

I want my gear!
 
if you trust the people you share the space with, then just tell them to leave some cold beers in the fridge for you in exchange for using your gear.
I have a space like that, they use my amp, and sometimes my bass. That is fine with me. I don't think they can break it even if they crank it up. If something did happen to my stuff, and nobody confessed, I would just kick them out and get new studio mates.
I hold the lease, so I can boot them out any time. And they know it.
 
As a first step, as I don't recall reading about transportation issues but I can reasonably assume one doesn't want to haul a 410 around when they don't have to, take the head and all cables home.

The money side of it is definitely worth looking into as it seems you're putting up a good bit and other folks are potentially benefitting substantially from it. I'm all for being cordial and nice but not being taken advantage of as is a possibility in this situation.
 
Not to mention, depending on which side of the debate one is on, wouldn't this completely fly in the face of and change "your/my tone"?

I want my gear!

I couldn't agree more! Admittedly I have used backlines before when playing shows with bands I know well. Usually I would offer up my rig unless something uber awesome was being offered and I was in the mood to try something different. What drives me crazy is people who show up to a sound check and go, "What do you mean I should of brought an amp?". Then they get all sort of pissed that everyone says no to them. One time the opening band wanted to use my rig for sound check, their set, oh and they forgot to pack up the bassist's bass. "Man I mean our practice spot is like a half hour away...."
 
I don't think you are being played. If you are concerned about your gear, then you shouldn't leave it. By the same token, you should not complain if others use the gear you left. If you leave it there and they have to bring in their own, that means they have to move your's first. They are not your roadies. So either you continue to be a nice guy and allow your gear to be used, and accept whatever happens to it or you take it home and bring it with you when you are in the space.
 
if you trust the people you share the space with, then just tell them to leave some cold beers in the fridge for you in exchange for using your gear.

Fair enough. However, let us do some math here.

In order for one to replace my personal rig with my cheapest bass, as I write this, I am into it for @ $1300. (used)

The average cost for a 12 pack of the beers I drink comes to roughly $15.

This equates to roughly 87 twelve packs or 44 cases of my beer.

Let me tell ya, I will probably go through those beers way before I will wear out my rig.

I like your line of thinking but I can't make that trade. Sorry, not sorry!
 
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