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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

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…also considering a custom baritone build today. 27.5” scale. 6-9 month wait.
 
This is one from LEGENDARY skateboarder Rodney Mullen:
He’s a once in a lifetime kinda of human.
A point of glinpse from my skateboard philosophy/thoughts/way of life….background whatever something something.


Oh man Rodney Mullen. It's tough to get his importance across to non-skaters because there's no one analogous to him in any other sport as far as I know. In basketball it would be like Michael Jordan but in addition to his skills he also invented the slam dunk, three point shot, etc. Excuse me while I binge some Rodney Mullen videos...
 
This is one from LEGENDARY skateboarder Rodney Mullen:
He’s a once in a lifetime kinda of human.
A glimpse into my skateboard philosophy/thoughts/way of life….background whatever something something.



I’ve watched that Ted talk and everything else I can find on Rodney. I briefly turned pro as a skateboarder in my teens. Entered a freestyle contest where Rodney showed up. Immediately quit competitive skating for good :)
 
27061731[/URL], member: 188059"]I’ve watched that Ted talk and everything else I can find on Rodney. I briefly turned pro as a skateboarder in my teens. Entered a freestyle contest where Rodney showed up. Immediately quit competitive skating for good :)
epic, a fellow skater and Rodney fan right here all this time amd you never said a word
wow, you where pro for who or what skate shop? what years?
 
This is one from LEGENDARY skateboarder Rodney Mullen:
He’s a once in a lifetime kinda of human.
A glimpse into my skateboard philosophy/thoughts/way of life….background whatever something something.



a lot of what he says there goes to improv/composition and music community.

cool.
 
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epic, a fellow skater and Rodney fan right here all this time amd you never said a word
wow, you where pro for who or what skate shop? what years?

It was around 1937 :)
Naw, maybe around 1980? Rode for a small, long extinct company called…Ampul?
I was actually ‘in’ the Dogtown/Z-Boys doc in a way…I was skating the same park the day they shot footage. It was mostly the dogtown dudes telling the rest of us to get out of their way :)
 
Actually pushed “Rec” tonight. Got out the Nordy Acinonyx and the Miezo and plugged them into the interface and had at it. I’ve got a friend looking to collaborate so I knocked out a few ideas and bounced stems to Dropbox. Let’s see where this goes.

In the meantime, I nearly bought another Super Fuzz clone, but controlled myself. I’m back to looking at a custom baritone build, but also considering a Bass VI. I’m not sure which I’d use more or prefer. 27.5” vs 31” scale. The shorter scale doesn’t offset the strings on the body as much as the longer scale. The reach to the 1st position could be fairly similar, and that’s my biggest challenge.
 
I've been thinking about my goals/plans for 2023. This is usually where I make up all kinds of rules about not buying gear that I wind up breaking (but usually feeling completely justified in doing so).

Of, all the modules I was looking forward to, on waiting lists for, etc. I just don't need any of them. Endless Processor would be cool, sure... but really it doesn't offer me anything I can't do (slightly differently) with my setup anyway. With a bit of patching, I managed to come up with several variations on dirty FM aside from the Akemie's Castle, so I talked myself out of Recovery Effects Mystic. Earlier in the year I talked myself out of XPO by patching stereo PWM. And so on...

Also, there's very little that I am willing to part with just to make space for a new thing.

And I realized, my desire to get all my modules back into the big case is more than my desire to play with some new modules. At least for now.

I'm not going to make myself a "don't buy stuff" rule, but I'm going to keep these things in mind throughout the year.

Right now the big thing I'm missing is competence with the bass. I need to practice to the point where I can play cleanly, confidently and consistently, so I don't ruin takes and can play some more interesting bits.

I made myself a DAW template with a drone that switches octaves every few bars, some quarter-note repeating bonks to keep time, and a bass channel with a synced delay which makes any poor timing in my playing really obvious (and also sound nice). I find it's pretty great for ambient improv sort of noodling without letting me hide mistakes.
 
Earlier in the year I talked myself out of XPO by patching stereo PWM.

re the xpo. it does more than the stereo pwm, it also does it for the other two pairs of vari-timbre and wavefolding, plus the modulation you can apply to each stereo split/channel.

the file is something i was messing around with and then i saw your comment.

first sound is the pwm outputs through qpas filter into a vca (iirc) into mimeophon (manually faded in at top)

second sound is crossfading between the vari-timbre outputs into their own filter and wavefolding outputs into their own filter into a crossfader into a reverb (manually faded in)

copious amounts of modulation and manual fade-in/fade-out to taste.


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Right now the big thing I'm missing is competence with the bass. I need to practice to the point where I can play cleanly, confidently and consistently, so I don't ruin takes and can play some more interesting bits.

I made myself a DAW template with a drone that switches octaves every few bars, some quarter-note repeating bonks to keep time, and a bass channel with a synced delay which makes any poor timing in my playing really obvious (and also sound nice). I find it's pretty great for ambient improv sort of noodling without letting me hide mistakes.

if i may . . what i'm about to say won't help you play more interesting bits (well not directly) and is super-granular/boring, but in terms of clean and consistent, my mo has been been to concentrate on doing string crossings in different groupings per string (i've been doing this for 27 years and still do them after playing for 52 years—and just realized i need to try them on that guitar i bought!)

so concentrating on clean and consistent (using an external time source or not)

1. one 1/4 per string; two 1/8s per string; three 1/8 triplets per string, etc. starting slow and then getting faster.
2. one 1/4 per string, *one* 1/8 per string, *one* 18 triple per string, etc. starting slow and then getting faster.
3. mixing and matching the approaches in 1 and 2.

ime, this has helped me be more consistent. (if you already do this, i apologize for the redundancy.)
 
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re the xpo. it does more than the stereo pwm, it also does it for the other two pairs of vari-timbre and wavefolding, plus the modulation you can apply to each stereo split/channel.

the file is something i was messing around with and then i saw your comment.

first sound is the pwm outputs through qpas filter into a vca (iirc) into mimeophon (manually faded in at top)

second sound is crossfading between the vari-timbre outputs into their own filter and wavefolding outputs into their own filter into a crossfader into a reverb (manually faded in)

copious amounts of modulation and manual fade-in/fade-out to taste.


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if i may . . what i'm about to say won't help you play more interesting bits (well not directly) and is super-granular/boring, but in terms of clean and consistent, my mo has been been to concentrate on doing string crossings in different groupings per string (i've been doing this for 27 years and still do them after playing for 52 years—and just realized i need to try them on that guitar i bought!)

so concentrating on clean and consistent (using an external time source or not)

1. one 1/4 per string; two 1/8s per string; three 1/8 triplets per string, etc. starting slow and then getting faster.
2. one 1/4 per string, *one* 1/8 per string, *one* 18 triple per string, etc. starting slow and then getting faster.
3. mixing and matching the approaches in 1 and 2.

ime, this has helped me be more consistent. (if you already do this, i apologize for the redundancy.)
Same I have so many boring tech exercises I’ve been using for the past 20 years.
Keeps the hands in shape and everything well “oiled up”
I have literally hundreds of them. Most of them are rhythmic variations on a va certain fingering or Scale pattern.

Add displacing the metronome click to something else than the typical “1234”
Like click on only 2 and 4 then 1 and 3
then start the 1 on the second 16th of the click etc….
And you have some stuff to practice for 5 lifetimes.
Then do the same with a pick.

it never ends, there’s ALWAYS something to work on