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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

I finally have something to share from my koto collab

That was great!

How much time y'all give a device before deciding whether to let it go when you're not sure about it?

Sometimes I just know right away. Otherwise, if I don't initially gel, I might put it away and try it again a couple months later. Honestly, I trust my gut. It you're still in the return window, you could return it if you don't feel good about the purchase. I remember with the Fractal Audio FM9, I bought it because I thought it was going to work great, actually learned some things working with it, but then quickly soured on a few things it can't do even though it promises that it can. I just got to a point where I kind of knew that it wasn't going to be for me.

Most things that sit unused for six months are candidates for de-accession, but I don't like selling things so sometimes it takes a lot longer. There are a few things that sit around even if I don't use them that much because I know they're worth having for "that thing" they do: Grendel Drone Commander, Moog theremin, Octatrack, etc. Since I'm Eurorack, there are also some modules that are only sometimes racked.

I've only had a couple small things I've regretted selling, and "regret" is a strong word there. Maybe a few years later a need comes up and I think "oh, that thing I sold could have worked for that."

Is that doable? Anyone?

Unless I'm missing something (?), that sounds like a pretty standard multichannel mixer setup. Each synth gets an input on the mixer and the pedalboard is on a send, with one or more returns to its own channel(s).
 
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Unless I'm missing something (?), that sounds like a pretty standard multichannel mixer setup. Each synth gets an input on the mixer and the pedalboard is on a send, with one or more returns to its own channel(s).
That's what I suspected. I'd just have to look at the mixer and make sure I can have enough outputs. Because I'd love to just be able to have ALL of the synths have access to effects. Right now I just have an Avalance Run on the Moog and a Blackhole on the Iridium.

Plus it would give me an opportunity to change out stuff with the big board from time to time, as well as give me an excuse to buy more pedals.
 
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i tend to take a while with things before i jettison them—sometimes too long.

LOL. Yeah, ^^^this.



re gabriel:

“security” changed my life. the albs after that, while good, were diminishing returns for me.

I love the first four, for sure

PGIII, Security, So, Passion, Us, Up ...and maybe Rabbit-Proof Fence... are all easily in my personal Top 50 Albums of all time.
Conversely, if I never heard PGI or PGII or Birdy again I don't think I would miss them. And I absolutely detest Scratch My Back.
It'll be interesting to see where i/o falls on that spectrum.
 
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Even though I have a big board and a room full of synths, I still take that approach (which is why the Hydrasynth is getting nervous, as it doesn't get nearly the use that the Iridium and Wavestate do).

I'll give it a bit and see how it goes. I am thinking of rigging some sort of thing with a mixer so I can have a dedicated effects board for the synths, but I'm trying to figure out how to do it so I can have all of the synths have access to it as well as still have their own outputs. Like, if I want the Hydra to go through the board, I can. Then switch over to put the Iridium through the board. I just need to figure out how to do it so they don't only come out to the same output.

Is that doable? Anyone?

sounds like effects sends
 
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melty face and security are visionary works, imo (red rain off of so was sort of the last gasp of the "visionary stuff"). the later stuff is good, but he definitely went more commercial for my taste.

i'd put kate bush's the dreaming and hounds of love (especially the second side, lol, lp designation) in the same visionary camp.
 
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Synth patch with fx

Multiple aux output mixer perhaps?
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I dug that brand new Mackie out of the closet that I haven't used in 3 years, and it's pretty much a live kinda mixer, so I'm gonna sell that. Now the tough part is finding something that has 12 direct outs and stereo send/receive. Any suggestions, anyone?
 
Okay, mixer gurus... Regarding my aforementioned problem with trying to use the pedal board with different synths, I can definitely route an internal send in my Focusrite, so I'm all set for doing this when recording.

However, I realize for live situations, short of putting some serious cash down on a mixer that I don't have, I'd be okay to just use it on 1 synth. If I sent inserts from the track with the synth I want to use to the pedal, could I then send the pedal outs to another track where I could mix in just the wet signal? I'm kind of a moron when it comes to routing things (hence, no modular), and I know y'all got this stuff down good.
 
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I dug that brand new Mackie out of the closet that I haven't used in 3 years, and it's pretty much a live kinda mixer, so I'm gonna sell that. Now the tough part is finding something that has 12 direct outs and stereo send/receive. Any suggestions, anyone?
Okay, mixer gurus... Regarding my aforementioned problem with trying to use the pedal board with different synths, I can definitely route an internal send in my Focusrite, so I'm all set for doing this when recording.

However, I realize for live situations, short of putting some serious cash down on a mixer that I don't have, I'd be okay to just use it on 1 synth. If I sent inserts from the track with the synth I want to use to the pedal, could I then send the pedal outs to another track where I could mix in just the wet signal? I'm kind of a moron when it comes to routing things (hence, no modular), and I know y'all got this stuff down good.

I'm glad you're asking because I've been trying to wrap my head around how to best build a similar setup, routing my bass and multiple desktop synths/noise makers to share my pedals and other outboard fx. I recently bought a Soundcraft Signature 12MTK, which might be worth you checking out. I'm yet to plug mine in, but I believe it might do what you're looking for. This week I've also accidentally gone down the Matrix mixer rabbithole, specifically looking at the Pladask Elektrisk Matrise. Out of stock at the moment and only 4 inputs/outputs, but opens up some interesting live routing possibilities.
 
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That's what I suspected. I'd just have to look at the mixer and make sure I can have enough outputs. Because I'd love to just be able to have ALL of the synths have access to effects. Right now I just have an Avalance Run on the Moog and a Blackhole on the Iridium.

Plus it would give me an opportunity to change out stuff with the big board from time to time, as well as give me an excuse to buy more pedals.

You could patch bay. Synths on one side. Pedals on the other. Patch cables to mix & match.
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I'm gonna have to look into this some more. Will probably get one when I get paid (likely the Samson one), and I may have to pick your brain on it some more. Thanks.

It gets kinda tricky. It also gets expensive with adding cables plus a patch bay. The Boredbrain bay has some unique features but there are other options.

It also just occurred to me that depending on how many synths and pedals we are talking about perhaps a matrix mixer could work.

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It gets kinda tricky. It also gets expensive with adding cables plus a patch bay. The Boredbrain bay has some unique features but there are other options.

It also just occurred to me that depending on how many synths and pedals we are talking about perhaps a matrix mixer could work.

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I'm thinking 3 stereo synths and one mono, and probably 3-4 pedals. Patchbay does really seem ideal. I wish they had more options in the 24 patch variety that were affordable. A lot of em are 48 which I'll never need.
 
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Nero Bellum & Tim Skold have a project I just learned about called Not My God and they’re doing a short first & final tour with Snakes of Russia opening. They didn’t play Los Angeles so I missed my shot. It’s happening over the next couple of weeks so if this is up your alley then look for dates.