Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

[hieronymous]

Here's the next section of the recent live show I did.



Heckler at 2:30! This is the gig with the mountain of gear!

One thing I learned - the Grone is definitely NOISE and should be treated as such. Noise can be good, and I see myself using it for the wind sound, for one. Harmonically though - too chaotic. Hard to predict which note will be in-tune, so for me not usable as a drone source. At home when I can tune to it, but not live.

 

[Bob_Ross]

Keep in mind that the MOTUs don't have full 10v output for CV. You'd be safe in the +5/-5 range but I don't know that you could get higher in case you need it for something.

"CV" = control voltage? I'm confused: Why would an audio interface have any control voltage output? Aren't all the MOTU boxes just USB ADC/DACs these days?

Here's the next section of the recent live show I did.

I may have asked you this before, but what's the scale length on your Alembic?
I have this sick fantasy that one day in the not-too-distant-future I will order a medium-scale (32") Series I 4-string, but I've heard conflicting opinions on whether that scale length on a Small Standard Body is super-prone to neck-dive.

 

[monsterthompson]

”CV" = control voltage? I'm confused: Why would an audio interface have any control voltage output? Aren't all the MOTU boxes just USB ADC/DACs these days?

Yes. Some interfaces are DC Coupled so you can use certain software/plugins to send CV to external devices.

This article gets into it.
Which Audio Interfaces are DC-Coupled? - SweetCare

Here’s a list of devices from a few years ago.
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[Bob_Ross]

so you can use certain software/plugins to send CV to external devices.

Ah, that does sound like a lot of fun!

 

[JES]

It is. If you have a modular and an iPad or computer, you can take advantage of a bunch of extra CVs. Also many more flavours of noise are available.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

i’ve joked about it for years but now with AI, the “easy button” drum generator is indeed a reality.
is it good or bad? Ill just philosophize about it for the time being.

side note: I dont know if other drums styles are available in the generative drum utility tool. when do we get the grind core black metal bundle?

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

i’ve joked about it for years but now with AI, the “easy button” drum generator is indeed a reality.
is it good or bad? Ill just philosophize about it for the time being.

side note: I dont know if other drums styles are available in the generative drum utility tool. when do we get the grind core black metal bundle?

Replying to my own post
That “duckface image” on the video I previously posted is beyond cringe.

 

[monsterthompson]

Tested my “re-amp” setup today with some DI takes fed back into my pedal board. I can’t say that I hear anything that makes me want a reamp box. The level isn’t an issue and nothing I tested seems to indicate any impedance sensitivity/difference. Guess I just saved myself $150, so I should go buy some new gear

 

[hieronymous]

I may have asked you this before, but what's the scale length on your Alembic?
I have this sick fantasy that one day in the not-too-distant-future I will order a medium-scale (32") Series I 4-string, but I've heard conflicting opinions on whether that scale length on a Small Standard Body is super-prone to neck-dive.

It is 30" scale. One of the rare 5-string Stanley Clarke basses floating around - they made them for a while but to be honest, the 30" scale low-B isn't ideal. Or at least I haven't found the right string, too heavy and it sounds weird, but with the scale length and space between the tailpiece and the bridge, it's hard to find strings that fit.

Neck dive doesn't really bother me but it's definitely something to consider, especially with the longer scale length.

 

[steubig]

It is 30" scale. One of the rare 5-string Stanley Clarke basses floating around - they made them for a while but to be honest, the 30" scale low-B isn't ideal. Or at least I haven't found the right string, too heavy and it sounds weird, but with the scale length and space between the tailpiece and the bridge, it's hard to find strings that fit.

Neck dive doesn't really bother me but it's definitely something to consider, especially with the longer scale length.

maybe just go with a high C? might be good for exploring more ambient, etc., areas.

 

[hieronymous]

maybe just go with a high C? might be good for exploring more ambient, etc., areas.

That's a great idea - I did that when I first got it, in fact, I think that was my plan when I bought it. It was cool, but the bass didn't really like it - had problems with the neck - when I put it back to BEADG the bass just felt right. I have a new set of strings, going to be really careful when I put it on and try and keep my hands clean when I play.

 

[steubig]

That's a great idea - I did that when I first got it, in fact, I think that was my plan when I bought it. It was cool, but the bass didn't really like it - had problems with the neck - when I put it back to BEADG the bass just felt right. I have a new set of strings, going to be really careful when I put it on and try and keep my hands clean when I play.

yeah. might need to rethink tensions/gauges.

i have a couple 6ers that i tune up a minor third, using much lighter strings. it’s a different flavor.

 

[hieronymous]

Changing the subject - I love the music of Kosugi Takehisa and by extension, Taj Mahal Travellers. Collected the CDs in the early 2000s, never thought to look them up online. Found this very cool film from around 1972 on YT:



Haven't watched the whole thing yet - it's over an hour and a half long! There is cool music playing behind the footage, sometimes mixed, like the waves at the beginning or the airplane which it seems like we hear, but maybe it's an electronic sound? There is even footage with Don Cherry (though not clear if the audio matches) and interview footage. There is a section at 7:49 where you can imagine the concert happening like that - how did they make that sound?!!

Sorry to geek out, but I've been watching more - this looks like a documentary of their famous trip through Europe, the Middle East, etc. Through Pakistan (which I just saw a bit of) and down to the Taj Mahal? Did they make it?!! Will have to skip ahead!

One of my ministerial colleagues has a son around ten who has gotten into building his own instruments - he is learning oboe, def gonna turn him on to the Rite of Spring with the opening oboe line! But wondering if I should introduce him to the world of Kosugi Takehisa - picked up an album recently of Kosugi + Suzuki Akio (going with Japanese name order for now) who plays self-made instruments - immediately thought of my colleague/friend's son.

 

[JES]

Finally got some time with the Torso T-1 Sequencer today. It's very powerful, occasionally confusing, and like all other sequencers it will play "perfectly" in tune, or chromatically, but forget about accidentals or passing notes unless you always want the accidental or passing note. I tried it with my Buchla 208c, where it could happily apply different rhythms to each part and different melodies for each oscillator; my Perfourmer, where it could do the same; and my Implexus, from which this recording was taken.

I'm still figuring stuff out but I can see the opportunity for very fast melodic improvisation on the horizon -- as long as I don't want accidentals.

 

[monsterthompson]

I’ve got some catching up to do. Glad to see some more audio and video posted.

just saw this drop. New eurotack mixer from Boredbrain. It’s a lot of HP but a lot of functionality.
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[ugly_bassplayer]

Finally got some time with the Torso T-1 Sequencer today. It's very powerful, occasionally confusing, and like all other sequencers it will play "perfectly" in tune, or chromatically, but forget about accidentals or passing notes unless you always want the accidental or passing note. I tried it with my Buchla 208c, where it could happily apply different rhythms to each part and different melodies for each oscillator; my Perfourmer, where it could do the same; and my Implexus, from which this recording was taken.

I'm still figuring stuff out but I can see the opportunity for very fast melodic improvisation on the horizon -- as long as I don't want accidentals.

Sounds like basic Bach choral exercises done by Toxic the Avenger.

 

[steubig]

^^ you say that like it's a bad thing.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

27964941[/URL], member: 17475"]^^ you say that like it's a bad thing.

Most definitely isn’t a bad thing in my book!!

 

[JES]

Sounds like basic Bach choral exercises

Yeah, basically it does inversions. I need to see if I can push it further.

 

[monsterthompson]

Toxic internet people push synthfluencer over the edge.