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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

Would've been cool in the vid if they'd used something other than water, and have the glass slowly empty from each sip as the video plays out, the opposite of the food as it is "restored" from his mouth.

That would be interesting. It is still wild that was a single-take video recording played in reverse.

I agree that the screamo stuff isn't generally my thing, though I do like a good death metal, grindcore, or black metal sound. I kinda put the vocals on the back burner here and listen to the samples.
 
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That would be interesting. It is still wild that was a single-take video recording played in reverse.

I agree that the screamo stuff isn't generally my thing, though I do like a good death metal, grindcore, or black metal sound. I kinda put the vocals on the back burner here and listen to the samples.
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I am REALLY digging this. I'm going to wait until the next Bandcamp Friday to buy it.[ /QUOTE]

thank you very much.

Any info you'd like to share about the process and gear would be really appreciated.

sure . . . i'll try to be succinct (fingers crossed). edit: that *failed*. (lol)

as an overview, each piece has at least four percussion parts, four modular parts and four digital synth parts—often more. none of this stuff is referential to a click in abelton—there area a lot of places where i have sequences in different tempos going against each other. all the synth parts are played by hand; the midi stuff i played by hand and then edited a bit—sort of in a improvisational way (kinda going for feel/ambiance).

process:

the inception was that i decided to start working with some "ethnic" instrument sample libraries. i used percussion and some string instruments and started putting some ideas into midi on abelton. i was working on two pieces concurrently, but i got kind of stuck and realized that the string stuff was too referential or normal sounding. once i got rid of that and rewrote that beginning of that piece, work flowed much more easily. (basically i defined the sound world i wanted to use.) after that i'd finish one piece and try to come up with contrasting answers that became other pieces; sometimes i was experimenting with ideas to clear my palate and realized that it would work on a new piece or complete the part of a piece that dissatisfied me. later i thought i was done on the sixth piece, but two more crept in that i felt completed the overall "suite." (i feel liek there's a narrative feel to it?)

a lot of what i do is start with an idea and get it into live. then i start making a rough form: let's recap this section here and have two contrasting or bridge sections here; maybe i'll repeat one of those; hmm, that's too long , what else can i do. then it's either creating a new section if i already can hear the basic vibe/idea or fleshing out the original idea. from there it's just a lot of listening to what i have to see what needs (what i want to hear) to come next. for example, i want to hear some pulsing action: what's the tempo? what's the timbre? which sequencer might do that best? okay that sucks; take two. sometimes i like the idea, but it's too present/obvious: how do i obscure it, but still have it be there?

i fine-tune transitions, entrances and volume levels.

i listen to my pieces a lot (my 40-50 times each?). i ask myself a lot of questions.

the biggest (and most important) part of my process is that i work on this stuff pretty much every day—i figure i probably averaged at least 4 hours a day when working on these eight pieces.


gear:

the digital synth stuff in all hydrasynth desktop being driven by a linnstrument. all the patches i made/repurposed/edited use the microtonal scales in their voice menu. so there's a lot of quarter/19/31/43-tone scales. (almost?) all of the stuff is done as clusters; my goal was to have clouds of timbre/close tones rubbing against each other.

the modular stuff comes under the motto of "too much is never not enough"—i an embarrassing amount stuff (or do i).

the percussion samples are pretty much the same: too much stuff. the basic idea was to use either "ethnic" percussion, invented percussion (mercury/solar by the late, great chas smith, who made a lot of weird stuff for hans zimmer, etc., but was also a visionary pedal steel guy) and extended techniques (resonate by evelyn glennie) or things like glass instrument orechestras. [some of the percussive stuff is actually modular stuff.]

if you made it to the end, congrats! (too many words!)
 
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I agree that screaming lyrics isn’t always my thing and usually prefer clean singing / slightly growly (godsmack / slipknot / coal chamber/devildriver whatever where it’s audible)

kind of why so like the ocean so much - their middle albums like pelagial go from piano/violin/synth/ clean singing or their latest album Holocene that is synth driven and has a mixture of everything…

LLNN isn’t my usual but just blown away at how heavy their synth and bass player combo was… every time I try ultra low bass synth I just get that silly clicks cos it’s too low…(assume going too far down from equivalent low B on bass) but they have found a way to just layer and layer and layer to have it work to go through a PA go insanely low and still go BOOM haha
 
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So I went to a gig which is a rarity for me these days especially in sleepy old Adelaide… and on a Sunday night as well!
Saw the ocean (collective) from Germany which is always awesome with their mix of synths and melodic rock / metal… they played a selection of songs across all their albums which was great, some really melodic, some awesome synth and build up of metal combination…
Always a winner. It’s like tool on steroids in both the quiet and loud parts… I’ve seen the ocean every time they’ve come and always love their cross section of music.
They brought along cave in from America and LLNN from Denmark who opened… cave in was good… ok they were great… but just wasn’t in the mood for that sort of stuff lately… was like a mix of old school thrash and new melodic rock which was ok but that brings me to…

LLNN just… I was lost for words… I love my synth and ambient and metal and all but they just… from the get go it sounded like a subwoofer was exploding… with another subwoofer exploding on top of that… with ambient bass and guitars droning… and just… I’ve never experienced ANYTHING so heavy. They’re a massive hardcore / sludge / ambient sci-fi gamer cross section (Had to google later the guitarist tunes to drop G and the synth guy just layers and layers and layers of sub and drone and ambient noise that he spends months creating themselves…)
Literally blew me away… and as an opening act it was like how is anything going to sound heavy now!!!
It was pretty slow, doomy, drone (I guess cult of Luna or Minsk as the closest band I can compare it to)… but when that snare hits you just had to bang your head!
not sure they’re recording comes across as heavy but I’ll try! (Screaming lyrics warning I guess)


they're kinda cool. i'm watching a live set now. it opens in a really ritualistic way with just the singer and drum machine (?), which i found really evocative. it started feeling a little same-y . . . i kinda dig the more creepy horror movie synth sections.
 
okay, i’m not really smart. what is this doing? detaching it from the keyboard and putting it into a different case?

if so, i don’t quite get the attraction.

It is to allow you to remove the keyboard and just use the brain of the device with the keyboard of your choice. It seems to be aimed at those looking to clear desktop space and possibly just have a universal keyboard controller of your choice.
 
This looks interesting... the Demon Box

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I think a few years ago Hainbach had a device which was handheld that picked up EMF, and he walked around public places recording sounds from radios, cell towers, and subway rail systems, etc. It was cool and I wanted one but I think it was made in Russia or someplace and hard to get a hold of.
 
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It is to allow you to remove the keyboard and just use the brain of the device with the keyboard of your choice. It seems to be aimed at those looking to clear desktop space and possibly just have a universal keyboard controller of your choice.

isn't part of the microfreak's appeal its weird "keyboard"?
 
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I think a few years ago Hainbach had a device which was handheld that picked up EMF, and he walked around public places recording sounds from radios, cell towers, and subway rail systems, etc. It was cool and I wanted one but I think it was made in Russia or someplace and hard to get a hold of.

Description / Ether – SOMA LABORATORY

I think this is the device