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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

#6,441
What kind of reverb, parameters do you need ?
I use Strrmon BigSky, lot of different reverbs and each one has a lot of parameters to control, but still very user friendly. All the parameters can be assigned to expression pedal (and customized range). I like fo example to control at the same time decay, mix and tone with just one expression pedal. Very cool for ambiance.
 
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ugly_bassplayer said:
Pedal?
Plugin?
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Pedal.
All I need is a short verb, long verb, long verb without the original signal, and maybe something like a reverse verb. Would love it to have a self oscillation footswitch. It seems most don't have this. Would love something that has both control of the lows and highs of the verb, especially to keep it from getting too muddy down low. Must be able to get 100% wet (no dry). Would prefer to be able to have trails when you switch it off.
 
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emjazz said:
What do you guys use for reverb?
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I spent many a year with an Alesis QuadraVerb+ in my rig. I still have it around here somewhere...I think. :::looks under rock, sifts through pile of dirty laundry::: yep, still have it.

But I haven't even plugged it in on over 6 years. I gravitated away from those cavernous dense ambiances for a long time; I wanted to find other ways to create diffuse, distant environments. Reverb almost felt like cheating.

However, ever since acquiring the Chase Bliss MOOD last year I've been really digging the way it does reverb! So I'm kinda back on the cavernous ambiance bandwagon. It's definitely not the pedal you want if you're only interested in a reverb, or if you're looking for a versatile reverb. But for those times when I feel like "y'know what this part needs? a gymnasium!" it's perfectly adequate.
 
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Slaymus said:
What kind of reverb, parameters do you need ?
I use Strrmon BigSky, lot of different reverbs and each one has a lot of parameters to control, but still very user friendly. All the parameters can be assigned to expression pedal (and customized range). I like fo example to control at the same time decay, mix and tone with just one expression pedal. Very cool for ambiance.
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BigSky is the giant one, right? I really don't need so much.

I just got the new Red Panda Context 2. The sound is very good. Quite tweakable. There are a few issues that I hope are fixed when they update it within the month. Also wish I wouldn't have to consider an external footswitch to save more than one preset.
 
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emjazz said:
What do you guys use for reverb? Have been trying to find the right reverb for me forever. There doesn't seem to be one that has everything that I'd like.
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you didn't like the new red panda deal?

i think it depends what you're looking for.

i've gone pretty generic with boss stuff. i can give you chapter and verse on why, but it's probably boring.
 
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ugly_bassplayer said:
How about a small paragraph??

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<snore>

no, really, i couldn't . . . sure here goes (more like four paragraphs).

roland/boss one of the leaders in doing affordable digital reverbs since the 80s (yamaha and lexicon also did; yamaha tinier; lexicon creamier, but less versatile), so years of experience and functionality crammed into their pedals.

basically three product levels:

rv-(3, 5, 7, etc.) series: basic pedals that are good value, packed with features and small; probably not as creamy as boutique stuff, but i do think you're gonna lose some of that in live situations—especially with bass. some are true stereo; some are mono > stereo; many have reverse or gate. easily found on the used market. uses regular 9-volt battery supply.

rv-200: middle-sized package, mid-size price. <<stereo, programmable, has modeling of the old srv-2000 verb, which i consider a classic. lots of functionality and depth to making sounds. ability to use exp pedals to manipulate in real time; i think you can also use the tap pedal to activate sounds (select verb on only 1-2 notes? i like that). probably higher quality than the regular stomp boxes. reverse/gate is part of it. not super-hard to find used. uses regular 9-volt battery supply.>>

rv-500: larger box, designed to go up against strymon while being cheaper, possibly more flexible? basically two discrete stereo reverbs (probably two rv-200s?) at the same time that you can route in different ways. <<basically copy most of the copy from the rv-200 description above here.>> you can morph between two reverbs using the exp pedal (e.g., one verb is reverse/gate, one plate); have one reverb on and use tap to cut in another one. create fake manfred eicher reverb into reverb patches to give more depth.

for the rv-200/-500 there is some menu diving, but it doesn't seem onerous to me.

i have the 500 (i also have the modulation and delay version, so i like the basic architecture).



**i got into the exp pedal thing through the avalanche run, which i found limiting eventually. then i went to the source audio nemesis delay and ventris reverb (which does two verbs as the same times, but not as well). the source audio stuff allows you to do *more* simultaneous exp pedal manipulations, but the programming is less easy (no menus; can do it through a phone app). i think those sound good, but i think the roland stuff gives me more flexibility.
 
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#6,453
steubig said:
you didn't like the new red panda deal?

i think it depends what you're looking for.

i've gone pretty generic with boss stuff. i can give you chapter and verse on why, but it's probably boring.
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Also, still getting used to the Red Panda. It sounds nice, and they admitted that with everything going on that they released it without it being 100%, because they took pre orders. There will be an update for it really soon. Hoping that will fix some of the issues that I have with it.
 
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emjazz said:
Also, still getting used to the Red Panda. It sounds nice, and they admitted that with everything going on that they released it without it being 100%, because they took pre orders. There will be an update for it really soon. Hoping that will fix some of the issues that I have with it.
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That's pretty standard fair for Red Panda. I didn't think the Particle had updates but just checked and looks like they dropped one at the end of March!!! Tensor had a big update after release. I will say that they fixed all the problems in the update. They sent it out for dogfood testing. I sent them a bug I ran into when using the 4 button switch that was fixed in the update. They also didn't have manuals for either of those pedals for a little bit after initial release. That's the pre-release game...the I can't wait, gotta have it as soon as you make it available...at least for Red Panda. They are an awesome company though and make such forward thinking devices that are well designed and easily accessible for a knob twiddler or a MIDI programmer. They also have facebook groups that they actively participate in.
 
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cosmicevan said:
That's pretty standard fair for Red Panda. I didn't think the Particle had updates but just checked and looks like they dropped one at the end of March!!! Tensor had a big update after release. I will say that they fixed all the problems in the update. They sent it out for dogfood testing. I sent them a bug I ran into when using the 4 button switch that was fixed in the update. They also didn't have manuals for either of those pedals for a little bit after initial release. That's the pre-release game...the I can't wait, gotta have it as soon as you make it available...at least for Red Panda. They are an awesome company though and make such forward thinking devices that are well designed and easily accessible for a knob twiddler or a MIDI programmer. They also have facebook groups that they actively participate in.
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Yeah, going to send them an email tomorrow with things that I'd like to see worked out. I'm sure all or most are on their list of fixes already.

I do suuuper wish they had made these with the ability to hold like four presets in the pedal itself. I really don't want to have another pedal dedicated to presets for this, but that's the only way it'll be fully useful.
 
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emjazz said:
What do you guys use for reverb? Have been trying to find the right reverb for me forever. There doesn't seem to be one that has everything that I'd like.
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I use two things, basically... the Meris Mercury 7 and the Space algorithms on the Eventide H9. The Meris just has plate and cathedral, but it also has a lot of tweakables (pitch of trails, shimmer, swell, LPF/HPF,). The H9 has everything... spring, Blackhole, reverse, shimmer, plate, gated and a bunch of other stuff). I'll use a basic spring or plate if I'm playing a conventional solo, but most of the time I'm using effects for the soundscapes, so I go for the more extreme stuff. These two have never left me wanting.
 
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lordradish said:
I use two things, basically... the Meris Mercury 7 and the Space algorithms on the Eventide H9. The Meris just has plate and cathedral, but it also has a lot of tweakables (pitch of trails, shimmer, swell, LPF/HPF,). The H9 has everything... spring, Blackhole, reverse, shimmer, plate, gated and a bunch of other stuff). I'll use a basic spring or plate if I'm playing a conventional solo, but most of the time I'm using effects for the soundscapes, so I go for the more extreme stuff. These two have never left me wanting.
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Have been avoiding having two reverbs at the same time, but I may need to do exactly that.

That Meris seems great. Would love to try one at some point.
 
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emjazz said:
Yeah, going to send them an email tomorrow with things that I'd like to see worked out. I'm sure all or most are on their list of fixes already.

I do suuuper wish they had made these with the ability to hold like four presets in the pedal itself. I really don't want to have another pedal dedicated to presets for this, but that's the only way it'll be fully useful.
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MIDI will give you access to tons of presets. Just send the PC command for the preset. I would suspect MIDI is implemented in the same way across all their pedals. Particle and Tensor follow the same basic concepts for control over MIDI. I'd also think that it would take a 2, 3, or 4 button switch to access presets like the others as well.
 

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