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Have been avoiding having two reverbs at the same time, but I may need to do exactly that.

if they're not super wet and they're somewhat shorter, they can add depth without adding too much mud.

think of the depth and space of ecm recordings. i have two different two-reverb sets called manfred a/b and manfred c/d.
 
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ECM reverb....yay. They still must have tons of boxes of that stuff ready to splatter all over the place.

:bag:

it is a sound.

fwiw, i'm not a fan of everything ecm has done, but they have been a hugely influential and long-lasting (45 years, at least) label that has put out tons of cutting-edge and forward-looking music.

i imagine that people like eno do similar things with reverb . . .
 
it is a sound.

fwiw, i'm not a fan of everything ecm has done, but they have been a hugely influential and long-lasting (45 years, at least) label that has put out tons of cutting-edge and forward-looking music.

i imagine that people like eno do similar things with reverb . . .
Not arguing at all that they are hugely influential. Yep, the pushed the envelope no doubt.k

I was just making a boring dad jazz joke.

Like all the records on the telarc label...... ut that's another boring joke for the jazz purist police.
:ninja:

I should give up jokes for a bit......
 
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Just finished recording a couple of tracks on the Tascam 8-track. Need to take a break, recording is mentally exhausting.

Later today I will do some mixing and finalize them, and they should be ready for upload. Although I'd like to make some videos for them...

I'm diving into my synth pedals kind of hard; I have 4 of them (5 if you count the Superego "Synth Engine"...or 6 if you also count the MS-60B) and I feel like with the number and variety of pedals I have, I should be able to be more creative with my output.

Also giving the Grazer a good workout with this little project. I've gotten some good stuff out of it, but I think I need to return it since the AGR knob doesn't seem to function and I'm getting no response from Dwarfcraft. :sour:

One thing I've been trying to do lately is Berlin School music using only bass and pedals. The Boss SY-1 has a lot of sequencer options, but I feel weird using them since I didn't program the sequencer personally. But I can play a sequence manually on my bass through the synth and delay pedals, and providing I have the stamina to keep it up for several minutes, with no screwups and reasonably keeping time, it sounds pretty cool and the ability to dynamically control each note with my fingers adds a lot of expressiveness to it.

Now back to my break. Maybe I'll go for a run or a bike ride or something. More later tonight...
 
I really like some albums by Art Ensemble of Chicago, Don Cherry, Dave Holland and Sam Rivers Paul bley, on ecm....to name a few......

Epic catalog of stuff on there.

Though might be clueless also.

;)

i’m more clueless than you.

barre phillips mountainscapes is an early and incredible disc
steve reich, john adams, abercrombie.

evan parker electro-acoustic ensemble and eivend aarset with jan bang (bang is amazing on his own, imo) would both be great for people on this list.

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I'm diving into my synth pedals kind of hard; I have 4 of them (5 if you count the Superego "Synth Engine"...or 6 if you also count the MS-60B) and I feel like with the number and variety of pedals I have, I should be able to be more creative with my output.

Okay, 7 counting the FMeron. lol MOAR SYNTH PEDALS
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if they're not super wet and they're somewhat shorter, they can add depth without adding too much mud.

think of the depth and space of ecm recordings. i have two different two-reverb sets called manfred a/b and manfred c/d.
Electronic Audio Experiments recently released a small batch of reverb pedals. It was a reverb created with many different short delays. Great concept.
 
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MIDI will give you access to tons of presets. Just send the PC command for the preset. I would suspect MIDI is implemented in the same way across all their pedals. Particle and Tensor follow the same basic concepts for control over MIDI. I'd also think that it would take a 2, 3, or 4 button switch to access presets like the others as well.
I haven't gone down the midi rabbit hole. Ot seems a good midi controller is another $300 or so. I also like to keep things fairly simple. I don't need a tone of sounds. I just need a few specific sounds to manipulate.
 
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On more than one occasion I've heard musicians who are on ECM releases say that the actual performances on those tracks are incendiary and in-your-face...but that Manfred Eicher's whole aesthetic compels him to "tame" them in the mixing stage. Some of his Make This Mix Polite technique comes down to just levels management and timbre control, and some of it comes from, you guessed it, bathing everything in that luscious haze of reverb.

It's an intriguing idea. Personally it doesn't bother me; I like a lot of ECM stuff as is. But I can also imagine listening to the raw/dry tracks of things like Art Ensemble's Urban Bushmen or Frisell's Rambler and having my face ripped off. (In a good way.)

I think my favorite ECM artist might be Terje Rypdal. But I'll give pretty much anything with Jon Christensen on drums a listen.
 
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On more than one occasion I've heard musicians who are on ECM releases say that the actual performances on those tracks are incendiary and in-your-face...but that Manfred Eicher's whole aesthetic compels him to "tame" them in the mixing stage. Some of his Make This Mix Polite technique comes down to just levels management and timbre control, and some of it comes from, you guessed it, bathing everything in that luscious haze of reverb.

It's an intriguing idea. Personally it doesn't bother me; I like a lot of ECM stuff as is. But I can also imagine listening to the raw/dry tracks of things like Art Ensemble's Urban Bushmen or Frisell's Rambler and having my face ripped off. (In a good way.)

I think my favorite ECM artist might be Terje Rypdal. But I'll give pretty much anything with Jon Christensen on drums a listen.
Ecm and non ecm albums by the Art ensemble of Chicago are so different.

Its like ECM removed all the primal grit from them....imo, ymmv.
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My 2 cents.
 
re: ECM

On more than one occasion I've heard musicians who are on ECM releases say that the actual performances on those tracks are incendiary and in-your-face...but that Manfred Eicher's whole aesthetic compels him to "tame" them in the mixing stage. Some of his Make This Mix Polite technique comes down to just levels management and timbre control, and some of it comes from, you guessed it, bathing everything in that luscious haze of reverb.

It's an intriguing idea. Personally it doesn't bother me; I like a lot of ECM stuff as is. But I can also imagine listening to the raw/dry tracks of things like Art Ensemble's Urban Bushmen or Frisell's Rambler and having my face ripped off. (In a good way.)

I think my favorite ECM artist might be Terje Rypdal. But I'll give pretty much anything with Jon Christensen on drums a listen.

things like b phillips mountainscapes, that circle record, arc, conference of the birds are all pretty high energy. same with that even parker stuff. the reich and adams stuff doesn’t feel super reverby to me from memory.