Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

[JES]

I used to make beats on a telegraph, that would later make it to the west coast a few hours, later.

I know we've been focusing on the half mixer, but has anyone tried the Chappe telegraph? Just wondering how it compares with the Morse approach. No ICs, all analog. Very tempting.

 

[JES]

@lordradish

How'd you know I had a half track mixer?

Because of course you do.

 

[JES]

I have to say, I like very few bass synth pedals, they just sound like gritty ass to me. The Meris Enzo's more my vibe.

I also have not found a bass synth pedal I have fallen in love with. And I love synths.

 

[lordradish]

yet again, i am undone.

i'm waiting for someone to chime in on chiseling hieroglyphics and hearing the echoes in the bowels of a pyramid.



you might guess that i have the dd-500.

i like it a good bit. you can do some interesting things like having the two delays (A and B slots) panned to different channels. i like to do things like reverse in one and regular in the other. it's not a well-known feature, but the assign menu allows you to program LFOs (they call them internal waves or something stupid) to different parameters in a delay patch (modulation, delay time). they also do have sde-3000/-2500 (or 2000?) emulations, plus space echo (i think). it also allows exp pedal control of many parameters. you can also use the tap switch as a momentary switch for some stuff, so you can cut stuff in and out (i usually use or a quick on/off for things like ultra-tight delay with high feedback).

it may not make you forget your strymon, but i like it.

boss 500 fanboi (who is pissed there's no ps- or od-500)

Def thinking about it. Thanks.

 

[lordradish]

@lordradish

How'd you know I had a half track mixer?

Well, it was only a few steps away from the no input mixer or whatever that contraption is of yours.

 

[hieronymous]

Yeah, every now and then I hear something cool from them but overall, I think the singing's awful and the live stuff is just too sloppy for my liking.

I think Can is definitely an acquired taste - I'm not particularly fond of the post-Damo stuff, though I do love some of the later stuff when Rosko Gee takes over on bass from Holger Czukay.

Future Days with Damo Suzuki was a landmark ambient recording. I like this remix of "Oh Yeah" from Tago Mago - reworks some of the ambient sounds (the original dealing with pure sound in many ways too).

 

[Spectrum]

I think Can is definitely an acquired taste - I'm not particularly fond of the post-Damo stuff, though I do love some of the later stuff when Rosko Gee takes over on bass from Holger Czukay.

Future Days with Damo Suzuki was a landmark ambient recording. I like this remix of "Oh Yeah" from Tago Mago - reworks some of the ambient sounds (the original dealing with pure sound in many ways too).

I think Holger Czukay's bass playing was okay, but his main contribution was in the form of engineering and tape editing, etc. That experimentalism along with Damos's off the wall vocals made them what they were I think.

 

[hieronymous]

I think Holger Czukay's bass playing was okay, but his main contribution was in the form of engineering and tape editing, etc. That experimentalism along with Damos's off the wall vocals made them what they were I think.

I actually really like some of his bass playing, like on Paperhouse, Oh Yeah, all over Monster Movie - also maybe because he often plays the short scale Mustang. A lot of their stuff is the motorik repetition which is impressive in itself and much of it coming from Jaki. Definitely their combination of improvisation and tape composition is one of the things I love about them.

First time I got into them was through the Cannibalism compilation in the early '90s when I was playing actively - started listening to them again in the late '90s/early 2000s during a time when I had stopped playing but was still listening to music a lot - I had moved out to Berkeley to go to grad school and one of the owners of the record store Amoeba is also a drummer and plays with Malcolm Mooney and the Tenth Planet so I've gotten to see him a few times live - I also got to see Damo a few times with his Network - I wanted to play with him so bad but wasn't high up enough on the list before he stopped being allowed in to the US...

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

Anyone here know how to determine the value and specs of an unknown fader potentiometer???

Its from my Tapco mixer.
I got a gig and the master R fader is giving trouble.
Couldn't find the schematics anywhere online.

Edit....just read around....I'm screwed...
:/

 

[lordradish]

INteresting observation about the Hydrasynth desktop, now that I've had it for a bit.

Because the poly-AT pad grid is so expressive and responsive, more often than not, I'm finding myself using them instead of a keyboard. I have the grid laid out fretboard style. It's really getting me to see all of my playing in a completely different light, that perhaps I need to rethink the whole keyboard thing, in terms of expression. I'm getting my ROLI hooked up later this week for MPE, and then may get a Sensel Morph after that, as I can design a bigger fretboard grid (I'd love to have a Linnstrument but that's outa my range, until someone comes up with a payment plan). It's certainly affecting the way I design sounds on this thing.

I did make some stock patches (Moogish leads/basses, classic poly ana pad, etc) but I'm thinking it's more likely I'll play those on the Iridium or the actual Moog. I'm really psyched about this, it feels like a perception recalibration.

 

[steubig]

@lordradish

glad to hear it’s working for you.

i got the smaller linnstrument, so *somewhat* cheaper. but the roli/morph will probably rock your world too. i saw a hydra/morph vid recently that had me rethinking my decision.

a lot of possibilities in the hs.

 

[JES]

@lordradish I know this is totally unhelpful, but based on what you're saying, the Linnstrument is the logical next step.

 

[Feral Feline]

Anyone here know how to determine the value and specs of an unknown fader potentiometer???

Its from my Tapco mixer.
I got a gig and the master R fader is giving trouble.
Couldn't find the schematics anywhere online.

Edit....just read around....I'm screwed...
:/
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Sorry, still learning this stuff and have zero experience with slider pots.
I'm not sure how in situ, might be the same as measuring it a la carte...?



DMM probe on the outer lugs, slider all the way to one end. Measure
Repeat with slider all the way to opposite end.


Also, if you manage to remove it without mangling, there might be some manufacturer info hidden on the bottom that tells you what it is... B100k, A250k or whatever.


You've certainly been having a crappicolo time with gear lately... hope the universe gives you some slack soon.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

?
Sorry, still learning this stuff and have zero experience with slider pots.
I'm not sure how in situ, might be the same as measuring it a la carte...?



DMM probe on the outer lugs, slider all the way to one end. Measure
Repeat with slider all the way to opposite end.


Also, if you manage to remove it without mangling, there might be some manufacturer info hidden on the bottom that tells you what it is... B100k, A250k or whatever.


You've certainly been having a crappicolo time with gear lately... hope the universe gives you some slack soon.

Indeed.
But measuring points of resistance might vary depending on where you take the mesure on the PCB. So you might get 2k resistance here and 5.5k there. Also removing it might break it permanently....
It's a crapshoot.

Closed it all up. Still works but the master R fader is going to die on me on the gig I'm certain of it. (Its on the 26th of February)

What sux is that I need 2 main outs, plus a stereo group out as well as a minimum of 1 aux.

So that leaves me with a limited amount of mixers within a reasonable price range.

As for the audio interface, one of my buddie is lending me his till I get the funds to replace the dead one. I still can do plenty though, been recording with my 4 track alor this year.

I'll get by. Don't worry. When you use stuff, everything breaks at some point.

 

[lordradish]

@lordradish

glad to hear it’s working for you.

i got the smaller linnstrument, so *somewhat* cheaper. but the roli/morph will probably rock your world too. i saw a hydra/morph vid recently that had me rethinking my decision.

a lot of possibilities in the hs.

Rethinking what, having the Linnstrument? Care to expand on that? What's nice about the morph is there are templates out there for the 'creators' template to download, and one person's already designed a Linn-grid.

 

[lordradish]

@lordradish I know this is totally unhelpful, but based on what you're saying, the Linnstrument is the logical next step.

I know, but my bank account disagrees.

 

[HotelX]

Y’all keep tempting me with your hydrasynth talk. I should just go ahead and get one I suppose. They don’t seem to pop up used very often.

The video has some cool FM examples.

 

[HotelX]

@lordradish

glad to hear it’s working for you.

i got the smaller linnstrument, so *somewhat* cheaper. but the roli/morph will probably rock your world too. i saw a hydra/morph vid recently that had me rethinking my decision.

a lot of possibilities in the hs.

What video did you see?

 

[steubig]

What video did you see?

something in the facebook hydra group. there are a few on youtube.

that fm vid was very cool.

Rethinking what, having the Linnstrument? Care to expand on that? What's nice about the morph is there are templates out there for the 'creators' template to download, and one person's already designed a Linn-grid.

the morph looks more gestural. the linn is more note-oriented by design and the directionality is not as wide. i assume the pressure response is similar.

the note thing is good for real chords and the quartertone clusters i’ve been doing on it.

 

[lordradish]

I can't think of anything further from what I plan on doing with the Morph and the Hydra than this, which is why I know a lot of you will like it.