(Haven’t fully fleshed it out but my band has semi decided programming and having a backing track with drum tracks and sounds on it is easier than trying to work a synth into my rig to play live in parts too... I know which would be more fun but agree also more problematic doh!)
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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread
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That Medusa video helps explain a lot. I had no idea about the UFO troll. Freaking internet.
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I know, crazy!
I do think it’s time I started looking into synths. Early demos of the Medusa just made me want a Nyx. I like the Novation Peak, hate to admit the Deepmind 12 sounds kinda neat and the effects are incredibly good. Then there’s the Digitone and Analog 4...
Sheesh
Playing around with the built in effects in NI Maschine. I'm kinda impressed with the Phasis effect on the main synth theme. I also like the Metaverb and Ice effects on the DLR sample.
Nothing particularly ambient about this scratch idea. Mostly an exercise in working with the sample in Maschine and the effects.
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Nothing particularly ambient about this scratch idea. Mostly an exercise in working with the sample in Maschine and the effects.
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Some great sounds in there! Really like it a lot!
I did go out Synth shopping the other day. There’s a couple places with good selections around here. I do like the Novation Peak quite a bit. Very programmable and mostly knob per function to avoid menu diving. Though I never set out to be an Elektron fanboy, their Analog 4mk2 is really great. It’s a ‘4 voice’ synth, but with several easy tricks you can make it sound like way more voices. 128 sounds can be loaded into a project and you can use em all. Just only 4 on any given step. Really great utility box, I think
Thanks. I really like the Ice reverb on the David Lee Roth yell. It's the one that sounds like a banshee wail that trails off (I think I hit it 3 times in the track). I need to look into what I can do with that reverb.
I have tried sampling bass playing into Maschine in the past. I really need to revisit it. I didn't quite get "sampling" when I started this road, but it makes way more sense to me now, and thus Maschine does to.
I'm also working on looping my fretless into the Pigtronix Infinity, then fading loops 1 & 2 in and out to mix them and rerecord and layer parts.
I've got some time on my hands for experimenting with sound design, and it has been fun.
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Sounds like it! I’ve been almost exclusively into sampling (vs synths) for a long time (off and on). I never sampled records much. I just loved the Genesis P., Neubaten, musique concrete idea that any sound can be music and if I make my own sounds, they’re like ‘my’ instruments. I (wrongly) thought synths influenced stylistic things and no matter how much I loved the synth patch, I felt like I was writing someone else’s song with someone else’s sound. But the real truth is I was just rocking presets because I didn’t know anything about synthesis. Now I don’t think there’s much difference between turning a raw sine wave into an instrumental voice as there is to sampling a toaster oven or whatever. Sampling just struck me as a bit more punk rock. Not that anyone should care what I think about anything
Regarding looping/morphing/mangling/repurposing your bass, obviously I’m all about that! It’s what led me to loopers and effects, then onto the Octatrack. Live sampling or using the looper functions inside the OT have opened up whole new worlds to me and I feel like I’ve barely cracked the surface. I love chopping up my bass parts in a similar way that jungle and DnB artists were doing with drums in the 90’s. I also love that you can, on the fly, make a very complex and unusual sequence of your bass part BEFORE you even sample it, in real time, mid song, while the sequencer is running. It’s a blast
Sounds like it! I’ve been almost exclusively into sampling (vs synths) for a long time (off and on). I never sampled records much. I just loved the Genesis P., Neubaten, musique concrete idea that any sound can be music and if I make my own sounds, they’re like ‘my’ instruments. I (wrongly) thought synths influenced stylistic things and no matter how much I loved the synth patch, I felt like I was writing someone else’s song with someone else’s sound. But the real truth is I was just rocking presets because I didn’t know anything about synthesis. Now I don’t think there’s much difference between turning a raw sine wave into an instrumental voice as there is to sampling a toaster oven or whatever. Sampling just struck me as a bit more punk rock. Not that anyone should care what I think about anything
Regarding looping/morphing/mangling/repurposing your bass, obviously I’m all about that! It’s what led me to loopers and effects, then onto the Octatrack. Live sampling or using the looper functions inside the OT have opened up whole new worlds to me and I feel like I’ve barely cracked the surface. I love chopping up my bass parts in a similar way that jungle and DnB artists were doing with drums in the 90’s. I also love that you can, on the fly, make a very complex and unusual sequence of your bass part BEFORE you even sample it, in real time, mid song, while the sequencer is running. It’s a blast
Seriously considering building an effects rack of a Morphagene and that 16 tap delay posted earlier in this thread, along with a 1/4" to Euro module so I can run various instruments through the hardware I'm working with.
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I haven’t felt ready to go all in with modular, mostly because it never ends and I often find myself broke enough by gear purchases. That said, some the most exciting and interesting music I’ve heard in the past 5 years or so involves modular. So much opportunity for 3D sound
Ooh, that is really nice.
I threw this together on GarageBand...
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nice groove, but can use a little bit less repetitiveness...maybe a melody over the top...otherwise, why have it go on more than 30 seconds (yeah, I listened to the whole thing)?
Not a bad start. Is that all from the built in software instruments, or did you do any live recorded work?
If I'd developed that, I'd next work in building in some variations, playing around with dropping some instruments out for a few bars, and building in some turnarounds, and seeing if you can build in a break or adding an occasional riser or two. My biggest weakness is comfort with developing drum changes and building up and breaking down beats.
Garage Band has come a long way.
I tried to develop the track. Like I said above, GB wouldn't let me do that for some reason. Something with the "blue" and "green" samples.
Keep at it. I too am first learning garageband now...and on an ipad no less. I used to do recording on a Mac/Protools rig, but now that firewire is about as popular as laser discs, I needed to adapt/upgrade and that's where I landed. I record more in the vein of a 4-track just capturing a performance as opposed to building small phrases and pyramiding in and out so it is a definite adjustment.
My one tip that I constantly try to remind myself about is that attention spans are really short these days. If you are going to make a 4 min clip and expect people to get passed minute 1, it better be interesting right off the bat and start evolving almost immediately. Whenever I make sound clips, as a general rule, I target a minute to 90 seconds since I think asking for more of someone's time won't happen unless I'm really good at engaging and holding attention. So far, I'm still working on making my short clips more engaging and purposeful while also not letting go of my core principal of creating my music via live performance.
This is a song we have played for years. Like many of our songs it is a skeleton that serves as a guide and we improvise over it, so it is different each time.
We've been playing around with some new video editing/FX software. So, imbibe your favorite intoxicant and enjoy.
We've been playing around with some new video editing/FX software. So, imbibe your favorite intoxicant and enjoy.
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Got a small rig put together for my first show with the Octatrack. Gonna use a couple iPad apps for synth and have a bass running through a few pedals into the Octatrack for live sampling and whatnot. Nothing fancy or elegant but it’s working!
Everything mounted to a pedalboard for easy/fast set up and tear down
Everything mounted to a pedalboard for easy/fast set up and tear down
