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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread



This sounds like fun.

IMO, the WMD Geiger Counter can get into that malekko downer territory plus about 9784786237462570314601234 other sounds.

Tracked a song for the band with an EHX pitchfork running into the Geiger, its sounds MASSIVE.
(Yes, the one with no drums yet.....:banghead:....)

My 2 cents.

Cool hearing each person’s take on bass builds, specs, wood, finishes......etc....
 
Thanks @steubig and @emjazz for your thoughts on finishes. The amount and range of knowledge on this thread is incredible. The #1 4-string I mentioned before is roasted maple neck with a tru oil finish, but the body is plain old alder with a pretty thick piano black urethane finish. I had a modulus bolt on that was great and felt resonant (and acoustically LOUD) but heavy. I have an acoustic bass guitar -- an Emerald -- but I'd say the neck feels less resonant. It's a glue-on so that works with the glue theory.

Nitro is a no-go in Montreal. So many weather changes it'll crack in no time and I don't love that look. But I will talk with the finish guy on Tuesday (he also does wiring and setup and cuts the nut). And to @emjazz's point, I think I will take their advice about the relationship between tone and finish, as well as asking Jacques, who does the bodies. I still might go for a stain, though, unless that also affects tone. We'll see.

As to touch instruments vs basses, they do sound different, but in a mix, or as you add processing, the difference is minimal in many cases -- I'm thinking less the Stick than Warr guitars and Touch guitars models. I was honestly shocked. I think the different tunings and fingerings are more important tonally, as what's hard on a bass is easy on a touch style instrument and some easy things on bass are really difficult. The Chapman sticks are different in that they all have this very particular twang in the upper range, which I think results from the construction, materials, electronics, and what he wanted to go for tonally. The low end also is also distinctive, especially in the hands of someone like Tony Levin, I just happen to like that sound better.

It's also technique. I often alternate fingers and hands, which makes it more fluid sounding than the Chapman "free hands" technique to my ears, at the expense of being able to piano style melody and bass at the same time -- which is also a valid if that's what you want to do. For instance, I have a little bit in a song where I turn on a delay and do a riff, and originally I did it with a pick because I am strumming right before and after (I wear a thumb pick and cut the thumb off my glove so I can quickly switch). I started doing the little riffs touch style instead and with the amount of searing distortion and delay, I would be honestly surprised if anyone could hear the difference.
 
Yep.

Got the same 'forwarded to destination' status on Friday that DHL sent me on Wed. I'm hoping there was a hiccup and it's actually going to show up in Manchester on Monday, which prob means I'll get Tues or Wed. I am going to find out if I can get some sort of refund from DHL. This sucks almost as much as Fed Ex always does (in VT, at least).

DHL is hands down the worst carrier I've dealt with, far worse than the USPS. They bat zero percent, yes, ZERO, getting anything to my house. Every single item ever shipped to me via DHL mysteriously never showed up at my door. If given any choice at all I go with anyone else. Just my personal experience.
 
Thanks @steubig and @emjazz for your thoughts on finishes. The amount and range of knowledge on this thread is incredible. The #1 4-string I mentioned before is roasted maple neck with a tru oil finish, but the body is plain old alder with a pretty thick piano black urethane finish. I had a modulus bolt on that was great and felt resonant (and acoustically LOUD) but heavy. I have an acoustic bass guitar -- an Emerald -- but I'd say the neck feels less resonant. It's a glue-on so that works with the glue theory.

Nitro is a no-go in Montreal. So many weather changes it'll crack in no time and I don't love that look. But I will talk with the finish guy on Tuesday (he also does wiring and setup and cuts the nut). And to @emjazz's point, I think I will take their advice about the relationship between tone and finish, as well as asking Jacques, who does the bodies. I still might go for a stain, though, unless that also affects tone. We'll see.

As to touch instruments vs basses, they do sound different, but in a mix, or as you add processing, the difference is minimal in many cases -- I'm thinking less the Stick than Warr guitars and Touch guitars models. I was honestly shocked. I think the different tunings and fingerings are more important tonally, as what's hard on a bass is easy on a touch style instrument and some easy things on bass are really difficult. The Chapman sticks are different in that they all have this very particular twang in the upper range, which I think results from the construction, materials, electronics, and what he wanted to go for tonally. The low end also is also distinctive, especially in the hands of someone like Tony Levin, I just happen to like that sound better.

It's also technique. I often alternate fingers and hands, which makes it more fluid sounding than the Chapman "free hands" technique to my ears, at the expense of being able to piano style melody and bass at the same time -- which is also a valid if that's what you want to do. For instance, I have a little bit in a song where I turn on a delay and do a riff, and originally I did it with a pick because I am strumming right before and after (I wear a thumb pick and cut the thumb off my glove so I can quickly switch). I started doing the little riffs touch style instead and with the amount of searing distortion and delay, I would be honestly surprised if anyone could hear the difference.
I have an oil only finished body on a Frakenstein bass, dont worry about the wood being protected.
Only down side is that its easily scratched and '' damaged" , i dont care at all. And yes its completly convered in battle scars, lots of em.
Mine has been gigged HARD in the worst conditions and its held up awesome.
 
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i sometimes feel like the little battle scars give the instrument more sonic character.
Ohhh man , this one has character oozing like some cosmic slop.
The back of the body is carved with a knife, screwdriver or whatever sharp object that was on hand atm by family, close friends and me. Almost no place left, I left the carvings bare wood.

My Fender Pbass is also pretty "cosmic Slop''. Lots of bare wood on that one.

I say play them!!!!!!

Also all my necks are bare wood with oil or satin finishes.
Again, zero issues over many battles....euh....gigs
 
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DHL is hands down the worst carrier I've dealt with, far worse than the USPS. They bat zero percent, yes, ZERO, getting anything to my house. Every single item ever shipped to me via DHL mysteriously never showed up at my door. If given any choice at all I go with anyone else. Just my personal experience.
Man...everytime I've gotten something from another Country through DHL it's been lightning fast.
 
DHL is hands down the worst carrier I've dealt with, far worse than the USPS. They bat zero percent, yes, ZERO, getting anything to my house. Every single item ever shipped to me via DHL mysteriously never showed up at my door. If given any choice at all I go with anyone else. Just my personal experience.

Yep, they are the all time worst in my experience too, in terms of home delivery. They manage to get stuff to my PO box just fine though...oh, wait. :cool:
 
I’ve done a very bad thing.
Been binge watching the Make Noise Strega, O-coast and O-Control.

This is not good.
The “need” is getting the better of the “want”.....!!!!!!!

Just when I told myself I wasn’t buying anything cuz I’m in “flip the table”
“^&(% this ishhh mood.

These are all good instruments, but each one has a learning curve, so I'd say get one at a time if you dig in (not both the 0-coast and the Strega). Make Noise's labelling is not the most intuitive.
 
I have some Eurorack. My general feeling with them is that everything works not exactly like I'd intuit but once I understand it, it works well. However, I had a sold their Morphagene module because I could never remember the button combinations and one control I found tuned wrong for my ears and fingers--unfortunately, that control was pitch. Support over email is great for questions, and I have never needed anything of their repaired. In general, though, Eurorack is a little more crowded than standalone devices, and I don't know if 0-coast and Strega are more like Eurorack or more like standalone, so I would get my hands on one to make sure you like how it feels.
 
I have some Eurorack. My general feeling with them is that everything works not exactly like I'd intuit but once I understand it, it works well. However, I had a sold their Morphagene module because I could never remember the button combinations and one control I found tuned wrong for my ears and fingers--unfortunately, that control was pitch. Support over email is great for questions, and I have never needed anything of their repaired. In general, though, Eurorack is a little more crowded than standalone devices, and I don't know if 0-coast and Strega are more like Eurorack or more like standalone, so I would get my hands on one to make sure you like how it feels.
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It sounds awesome though. Very versatile, not a “one trick” kinda of box.....at least from what I’ve heard.
It can work as a stand-alone and with other modules.

Down the rabbit hole I go.
(Sheds tear and balls up into foetal position)
 
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