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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

#16,841
I plugged my RE-20 Space Echo pedal in again - at max feedback, the volume goes way up! I had to put it through a compressor to keep it under control. It tries to do the overdriven sound of the original too, but to me it's a bit too harsh. Not going all the way you can still get the near-infinite feedback. (Of course that might be the sound someone is looking for!) The previous things I've been putting up have been unlisted, I'm putting this one up officially lol



Also, I managed to sell a synth and figured out a couple of things to sell - given that it's my birthday tomorrow (51) a DFAM/Subharmonicon combo could be in my future - hopefully I can start adding more layers to my sequencer...
 
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dukeorock said:
It’ll probably pass, but I was thinking about current disdain for modular (mostly the time and money suck). I’m thinking of putting together another Snipecatcher record as well as starting a new mostly electronic project with a singer/front person, so I started going over recordings from the past 3 years ago. It’s a silly amount of stuff because I tend to record and more or less mix everything as I’m messing around with it. Since there’s so much material, I’m trying to sub categorize everything. ‘Potential Snipecatcher,’ ‘Potential Vocal Tunes,’ ‘Ambient/Soundscape,’ ‘Aggressive,’ etc.
All that to say, I found a lot of stuff I really liked that was done in modular and I have no idea how to get some of those sounds any other way. Made me really miss my Cwejman SM-1, Mannequins Mangrove and Morphagene/Nebulae2 combo for playing live bass through. Probably miss that the most. Still the time/money suck vs results puts me off :)
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Ugh. I'm in a similar creative paralysis. I have clouds of concepts I'm trying to forge into solid ideas. Gear distraction is part of the issue. The last two years have given me excuses to just noodle and wander, or to not do anything at all.

I think this is part of my lust for a OT. I feel like it will be a tool that will force me to solidify ideas as part of the process of learning the device. That said, There's still some interest in the Polyend Tracker. I like the idea of loading up samples on something that isn't a computer and heading out to a place where I can work with what I bring.
 
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dukeorock said:
It’ll probably pass, but I was thinking about current disdain for modular (mostly the time and money suck). I’m thinking of putting together another Snipecatcher record as well as starting a new mostly electronic project with a singer/front person, so I started going over recordings from the past 3 years ago. It’s a silly amount of stuff because I tend to record and more or less mix everything as I’m messing around with it. Since there’s so much material, I’m trying to sub categorize everything. ‘Potential Snipecatcher,’ ‘Potential Vocal Tunes,’ ‘Ambient/Soundscape,’ ‘Aggressive,’ etc.
All that to say, I found a lot of stuff I really liked that was done in modular and I have no idea how to get some of those sounds any other way. Made me really miss my Cwejman SM-1, Mannequins Mangrove and Morphagene/Nebulae2 combo for playing live bass through. Probably miss that the most. Still the time/money suck vs results puts me off :)
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Disdain for modular, then mentions awesome stuff made with modular.

Paradox!!!!!!

@dukeorock ftw, don't ever change my friend.
Can't wait to hear some of those.
 
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monsterthompson said:
Ugh. I'm in a similar creative paralysis. I have clouds of concepts I'm trying to forge into solid ideas. Gear distraction is part of the issue. The last two years have given me excuses to just noodle and wander, or to not do anything at all.

I think this is part of my lust for a OT. I feel like it will be a tool that will force me to solidify ideas as part of the process of learning the device. That said, There's still some interest in the Polyend Tracker. I like the idea of loading up samples on something that isn't a computer and heading out to a place where I can work with what I bring.
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The Polyend Tracker has a seriously devoted following. I can see why, though I can’t help but feel the Octatrack can do the same tricks better. And really, early Elektron sequencers are based on/inspired by trackers, minus the vertical grid and hexadecimal thing. About a year ago I bought ReNoise, which is a modern computer tracker program for the computer. Went through about 2-3 hours of tutorials and haven’t opened it since :) Life is just too short. It’s super advanced, but I didn’t really feel like it could do anything the OT can’t and the OT feels more musical to me. That said, lots of folks have found their flow with the Polyend Tracker and it looks like that it’s a more stripped down, basic version of ReNoise, which could be a beautiful thing. If you really want portable, the M8 tracker is what a lot of folks are talking about ditching their Polyends for.


In the past few years, so many companies are copying the Elektron sequencer paradigm. Take all the per step editing power of a tracker and put it in an xox grid based UI. For me, that’s the ticket. Another one (of many) advantages the Octatrack has over the Polyend is track count. You have 8 tracks on the Polyend. You can sequence external gear via midi, but you have to give up an audio track. The Octatrack has 8 audio tracks plus 8 independent midi tracks and 3 LFO’s per track. Not the most portable rig for jamming at the park, though. I’ve thought of having something for long van rides (8-9 drive today, for example). Aside from an iPad, the M8 looks pretty tough to beat
 
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@ugly_bassplayer THATS WHAT IM SAYING! The modular thing is way too expensive and time consuming, but in the right moments it feels completely magical. That’s why I will likely downsize, but doubt I’ll ever get rid of the whole rig :)
ugly_bassplayer said:
Disdain for modular, then mentions awesome stuff made with modular.

Paradox!!!!!!

@dukeorock ftw, don't ever change my friend.
Can't wait to hear some of those.
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Cracked my pickguard removing it to clean the scratchy pot!!!!!
@^#^#&@**#&$&@*@*$*#
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ugly_bassplayer said:
@monsterthompson
Tracker??
Why not go full hipster retro?
Amiga tracker and akai s900 combo!!!!
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I officially need to go into selling mode first. I have too much stuff. I talked to a friend who does "home organizing" for a living. She said her current business is heavily based on helping people who went hog wild in the last two years buying stuff while in various states of lock-down and adjusting to work from home situations. Clutter is everywhere.

As for the OT vs Tracker, I know they are quite different. If I clear out enough space and free up some funds, I think I'll eventually go OT. I'm in a mode where I'm ready to sell. I'm preparing myself to say goodbye to some gear. I need to remember that I can aways buy most of the items again if I ever want to, though I might unload a few museum pieces.
 
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ugly_bassplayer said:
@monsterthompson
Tracker??
Why not go full hipster retro?
Amiga tracker and akai s900 combo!!!!
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There are people on Elektronauts and Modwiggler boasting of a very similar setup, but full hipster is the Akai s612.

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^^^not quite as hipster-approved as an S900, but if anyone’s looking for a *ridiculously* good deal on an Akai S2000, PM me.
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Had two of those for ages. Eventually gave em away, though they do sound pretty darn good still.
 
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ugly_bassplayer said:
Disdain for modular, then mentions awesome stuff made with modular.

Paradox!!!!!!

@dukeorock ftw, don't ever change my friend.
Can't wait to hear some of those.
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I think the key here is that you (@Duke) recorded everything. Then it's raw material for later. I feel the same way about modular. I just get more music made with things that are "finished" instruments, but you can do some awfully cool stuff that's hard to replicate anywhere else.
 
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ugly_bassplayer said:
Ok, why is the 612 Ultima hispter shizzle in the sampling tracker world??
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Well, I guess no sampler is THE sampler in that scene because most of that music was done straight from the sounds in the tracker software. The Akai 612 was the company’s first sampler, I believe. Very advanced for its day but still got that lower bit rate ‘crunch.’ I think they sound awesome, personally
 
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Spectrum said:
LOL at people from LA complaining about weather.
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I know, I know. Unfortunately, my 100 year old building hasn't been designed to handle the temperature swings. I can compensate for hot or cold, but this shoulder season yo-yo of cold and hot is an annoyance. I packed away my AC unit last week, knowing good and well that I'd need to bring it right back out again. My place has this other great quirk, where lighting the pilot so I can have heat at night means it radiates more heat than you'd think, as it idles all day. It feels very silly to turn on my AC to combat the heat from the pilot light.

Add electronics to the combination and, well, you know...
 
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dukeorock said:
Well, I guess no sampler is THE sampler in that scene because most of that music was done straight from the sounds in the tracker software. The Akai 612 was the company’s first sampler, I believe. Very advanced for its day but still got that lower bit rate ‘crunch.’ I think they sound awesome, personally
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Ok, sorta like the mpc 60.....or Sp1200....
Gotcha.
 
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ugly_bassplayer said:
Ok, why is the 612 Ultima hispter shizzle in the sampling tracker world??
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dukeorock said:
The Akai 612 was the company’s first sampler, I believe. Very advanced for its day but still got that lower bit rate ‘crunch.’ I think they sound awesome, personally
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Right. Essentially, everything that sucked about nascent technology is now considered "hip" because of all of its artifacts that subsequent technologies tried to fix [sic].

E.g., yes I was serious about a *ridiculously* good deal on an Akai S2000...but if you want to buy my Ensoniq Mirage, yer gonna have to cough up a few Benjamins.


...but not too many, so hit me up if there's legit interest! :::dancingbanana:::




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edit: I also think the integrated 3.5" floppy disc storage rack really contributed to the charm of the S612.
 
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