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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread
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well, here goes nothing. All Lyra, no FX, no edits. After about 1 month of practice on the synth. Constantly trying to make my own thing on it and avoid whats on YT and others.
- Mar 8, 2011
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It does, it has a certain warmth and expressiveness to it. Quite hard to describe.
Feels like contemporary piano mixed with musique concrète type thing.
thank you for taking the time to listen.
You guys are killing it with these ambient tracks today. Making me feel lazy again.
(Part of what motivates me is feeling left behind, kind of like being the last kid out of school when vacation kicks in.)
If anyone is looking for an excuse to record something, you can add to this:
@monsterthompson started it - I played a little over his and then continued into a new section - you can play over my section and then continue into a new section that the next person can play over. It can (should?) be quick and dirty.
@monsterthompson started it - I played a little over his and then continued into a new section - you can play over my section and then continue into a new section that the next person can play over. It can (should?) be quick and dirty.
i have no idea as to the veracity (picked it up off facebook), nonetheless i like the sentiment and thought i would share it here
happy saturnalia to you all.
happy saturnalia to you all.
Ah, so that's the source of the title of this album:
(From the Pitchfork review to put the above quote in a bit more context):
For the album’s name, Pierson borrowed a quote from choreographer Martha Graham, whose work did its own kind of refashioning and reconceptualizing of what the body could do. “No artist is pleased,” she once said. “There is only a queer divine dissatisfaction, a blessed unrest that keeps us marching and makes us more alive than the others.”
(From the Pitchfork review to put the above quote in a bit more context):
For the album’s name, Pierson borrowed a quote from choreographer Martha Graham, whose work did its own kind of refashioning and reconceptualizing of what the body could do. “No artist is pleased,” she once said. “There is only a queer divine dissatisfaction, a blessed unrest that keeps us marching and makes us more alive than the others.”
- Mar 8, 2011
- 12,232
- 51,187
- Disclosures
- Authorized greenboy designs builder/Owner of BNA Audio
Only had 3 things on my Christmas list this year.
1. Waldorf Iridium
2. UDO Super Six
3. Waldorf M
I got a gift certificate for new boots. Close enough
1. Waldorf Iridium
2. UDO Super Six
3. Waldorf M
I got a gift certificate for new boots. Close enough
Thanks !!!
I'm just really intimidated at the time and "failures" that will be required to achieve some sort of "release/album/something...."
Just putting the Dr Scientist Elements after it turns it into a VERY MEAN harsh noise instrument.
Not saying this will be my main goal atm, just mentioning what my progress has been with the Lyra.
From the covid basement day 3 of 10.
Still on my jazz bass atm, Hub passing away hit me like a freakin ton od bricks. Playing that instrument takes me back to those specific years when I had only one bass and was trying my best to imitate Hub.
You're already doing as well as or better than lots of people who aren't intimidated. Doesn't mean there isn't more to learn.
I just got one myself. I look forward to using it with a Soma Cosmos (which is supposed to arrive by the end of January). I really like the unpredictability of the Lyra!
I think it's time for me to finally get a hardware polysynth snd have been thinking far too much about it. So apologies for the length of this post. I'd appreciate insight from anyone and everyone.
I have the cash saved up. I am going to pick up a Micromonsta for my band rig when they're available again in January, but I want something more 1-knob-per-function-y for home use now that my away from the computer setup is happening. I've been doing my reading and listening and would love to hear if anyone has any thoughts here. Unfortunately, there are zero stores with a return policy for two of my three options (I can get the Prophet mail order from Long and McQuade, which does allow returns).
Here's what I want:
a) a desktop module with patch memory
b) that at least theoretically could do MPE at some point
c) that is fun to program
d) has a good basic sound to start with
e) that can sound nasty and dirty--not necessarily elephantine like a mono synth but distorted. I sometimes want clean but I am very much in a "dirty" phase at the moment. I do have monos for elephantine sounds so I'm not looking for huge bass, just not super-clean.
Right now my candidates are the Iridium, Prophet 6, and Super 6. Everyone says Hydrasynth is fun to program but not as awesome sounding as the other 3. I have listened to tons of demos but don't totally believe them. Normally this could be resolved with 10 minutes at a synth store, but places like Moog Audio won't even let you touch the stock right now.
The Prophet 6 is very WYSIWYG. It has a good basic sound in the neighbourhood of what I'm thinking of and is flexible within "standard analog synth" territory. MPE works. I worry that it's too simple in a way. MPE and modulation options are limited. But I can always sequence parameters from my Vector or Octatrack because of its excellent MIDI implementation, and you can program the Linnstrument to send any message you want on the Y axis.
The Super Six: The desktop form factor and interface looks perfect for me. More capable than the Prophet--everything on the front panel can be modulated from the front panel (with a couple exceptions). But seems to have a cleaner sound. No MPE yet but it's promised and the developer seems to deliver on promises, though not immediately. I can wait. Demos are all pretty clean and tinkle, though the new firmware update is said to have better FM (waiting to hear it demoed). I think I would need the Erica Acidbox or OTO Boum or something after it to get the tones I'm seeking. The stereo spread thing through a distortion or ring mod or frequency shifter could be pretty nuts.
The Iridium: Reports (including here) are that the MPE is working well in the 3.0 beta. Everyone on this thread that has one seems to love it. I love the theoretical range of engines on it -- combining sample and FM or virtual analog and physical modelling in one patch could be sick. I would instantly load up the Fairlight sample set and go nuts.
—how much do you have to use the touchscreen? I’m not a jam-and-tweak the touchscreen kind of guy. I don’t mind it for deeper settings and naming patches, etc., but would want to be able to use knobs when jamming.
—relatedly, would you say it is fun to program? I’d mostly build my own patches and love the idea of mixing samples and synthesis. But for instance, Loopop seemed to grumble a bit about the mod matrix in his review.
—can you get it to sound dirty or nasty? I know audio rate modulation on some oscillators is limited. Seems like there are lots of options on the synth for dirt elsewhere, but I haven’t heard much of this demos. Lot of huge pads and ambient stuff but that’s not what I’m after.
EDIT: I could also join the Lyra club here, but I kind of want a more traditional poly at least to start.
I have the cash saved up. I am going to pick up a Micromonsta for my band rig when they're available again in January, but I want something more 1-knob-per-function-y for home use now that my away from the computer setup is happening. I've been doing my reading and listening and would love to hear if anyone has any thoughts here. Unfortunately, there are zero stores with a return policy for two of my three options (I can get the Prophet mail order from Long and McQuade, which does allow returns).
Here's what I want:
a) a desktop module with patch memory
b) that at least theoretically could do MPE at some point
c) that is fun to program
d) has a good basic sound to start with
e) that can sound nasty and dirty--not necessarily elephantine like a mono synth but distorted. I sometimes want clean but I am very much in a "dirty" phase at the moment. I do have monos for elephantine sounds so I'm not looking for huge bass, just not super-clean.
Right now my candidates are the Iridium, Prophet 6, and Super 6. Everyone says Hydrasynth is fun to program but not as awesome sounding as the other 3. I have listened to tons of demos but don't totally believe them. Normally this could be resolved with 10 minutes at a synth store, but places like Moog Audio won't even let you touch the stock right now.
The Prophet 6 is very WYSIWYG. It has a good basic sound in the neighbourhood of what I'm thinking of and is flexible within "standard analog synth" territory. MPE works. I worry that it's too simple in a way. MPE and modulation options are limited. But I can always sequence parameters from my Vector or Octatrack because of its excellent MIDI implementation, and you can program the Linnstrument to send any message you want on the Y axis.
The Super Six: The desktop form factor and interface looks perfect for me. More capable than the Prophet--everything on the front panel can be modulated from the front panel (with a couple exceptions). But seems to have a cleaner sound. No MPE yet but it's promised and the developer seems to deliver on promises, though not immediately. I can wait. Demos are all pretty clean and tinkle, though the new firmware update is said to have better FM (waiting to hear it demoed). I think I would need the Erica Acidbox or OTO Boum or something after it to get the tones I'm seeking. The stereo spread thing through a distortion or ring mod or frequency shifter could be pretty nuts.
The Iridium: Reports (including here) are that the MPE is working well in the 3.0 beta. Everyone on this thread that has one seems to love it. I love the theoretical range of engines on it -- combining sample and FM or virtual analog and physical modelling in one patch could be sick. I would instantly load up the Fairlight sample set and go nuts.
—how much do you have to use the touchscreen? I’m not a jam-and-tweak the touchscreen kind of guy. I don’t mind it for deeper settings and naming patches, etc., but would want to be able to use knobs when jamming.
—relatedly, would you say it is fun to program? I’d mostly build my own patches and love the idea of mixing samples and synthesis. But for instance, Loopop seemed to grumble a bit about the mod matrix in his review.
—can you get it to sound dirty or nasty? I know audio rate modulation on some oscillators is limited. Seems like there are lots of options on the synth for dirt elsewhere, but I haven’t heard much of this demos. Lot of huge pads and ambient stuff but that’s not what I’m after.
EDIT: I could also join the Lyra club here, but I kind of want a more traditional poly at least to start.
After spending alot of time on the Lyra I only have 3 tips:
- have fun!!! Don't force anything
- open your ears
- embrace the unpredictable nature of the instrument.
Side note:
Try the Lyra alone before mixing in any external fx or processing.
Believe it will pay off in the long run.
