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America's greatest enemy?
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Canada. We burned your White House once and we can do it again. Name anyone else who managed that!
House painters: "a small fire broke out on the exterior of the East Wing in 2000. That one started the way most White House fires start — as workers were painting or removing paint or otherwise refurbishing some corner of the place".
Canada.
House painters.
Be afraid, be very very afraid......
A Short History of White House Fires - TIME
You seem to be talking about them a lot lately. At least you don't start thinly veiled threads about the 0.01%ers that mods constantly close.
Between the politically whorish religious right.. which adds to the ranks of atheists daily with it's hypocrisy (IMO it is better to walk the walk as best you can and leave the politicking to the politicians.. but that is just me.. because you can't run with dogs and not get fleas..)
To the overtly liberal "free thinking " anything goes if it feels good do it, "we don't need no stinkin moral yardstick" left....
To the "profit at any cost" captains of industry ....
... and the "nanny state" loafers who would gladly take a hand out .. and never EVER be willing to lend a hand up .....
.. and all persons, thinkers, ideologies, and so called philosophies in between..
America ... IMHO ... is the pinnacle of man's ability to govern himself... and it too like all the other nations and "ologies" "ocarcies" etc... before it, has been weighed in the balance.. and found wanting.
But that's just my take on it... and I'm just one man working for a living and trying to make it as best I can.
Our greatest historical enemy? The men behind the M.I.C.
To the overtly liberal "free thinking " anything goes if it feels good do it, "we don't need no stinkin moral yardstick" left....
To the "profit at any cost" captains of industry ....
... and the "nanny state" loafers who would gladly take a hand out .. and never EVER be willing to lend a hand up .....
.. and all persons, thinkers, ideologies, and so called philosophies in between..
America ... IMHO ... is the pinnacle of man's ability to govern himself... and it too like all the other nations and "ologies" "ocarcies" etc... before it, has been weighed in the balance.. and found wanting.
But that's just my take on it... and I'm just one man working for a living and trying to make it as best I can.
Our greatest historical enemy? The men behind the M.I.C.
Well, that's the rub, isn't it? You are pointing out a lot of extremes, and it's all we read and hear about these days. There is no balance, no middle ground. That right there is one of our country's enemies! Great post!
If people were not so rigid and extreme, I guarantee we would all be better off. I hate the rich criminals who run this country through religion and fake patriotism as much as I hate the people who always have their hands out, expecting everything for free, and for you to play for it!
It would be a great place if hard, honest work was truly rewarded AND possible due to a level playing field, and if only those who really needed the welfare (due to no fault of their own) could get what they need....
but instead....we are heading to a place were on one side only real bad people with no morals or real patriotism get rich, and on the other side, people with thier hands out (who have no problem having babies they cannot afford) keep grabbing everything with little or no interest in bettering themselves.
If people were not so rigid and extreme, I guarantee we would all be better off. I hate the rich criminals who run this country through religion and fake patriotism as much as I hate the people who always have their hands out, expecting everything for free, and for you to play for it!
It would be a great place if hard, honest work was truly rewarded AND possible due to a level playing field, and if only those who really needed the welfare (due to no fault of their own) could get what they need....
but instead....we are heading to a place were on one side only real bad people with no morals or real patriotism get rich, and on the other side, people with thier hands out (who have no problem having babies they cannot afford) keep grabbing everything with little or no interest in bettering themselves.
On the topic of people stating it's something and not someone, I'll just say that I've always found it ironic that our founders had Greece and Rome in mind when they founded our nation, where our current path seems to be destruction through overstretching our empire and internal corruption.
I hope that we don't follow the same path, but it's awful hard to be optimistic about it.
I hope that we don't follow the same path, but it's awful hard to be optimistic about it.
Canada!
We're really good with a slingshot! But that's later on!
We've already begun the invasion of your nation with deployment of our terrible Weapon of Aural Destruction: Celine Dion
We're really good with a slingshot! But that's later on!
We've already begun the invasion of your nation with deployment of our terrible Weapon of Aural Destruction: Celine Dion
OK guys, for those who have difficulty reading, the question was not "what general phenomenon is the biggest problem in American today?" Greed, obesity, the 1%, whatever is all irrelevant.
The question is "who" (which grammatically normally indicates a person) "was America's greatest enemy in history?" OP is trying to start an interesting discussion here and everyone wants to derail it with their petty soapboxing. Not impressed.
I voted Krushchev. Of those listed, he was the only one who actually wanted to destroy America and had the power to potentially do so. The Nazis and the Japanese in WWII were really preoccupied with targets closer to home and the US was simply in the way. Bin Laden wanted to but lacked the power.
Actually the nearest alternative choice was Robert E. Lee. His victories came the nearest to permanently tearing the country in half. If secession had actually been sustained, we would now have two countries confronting each other here, possibly fighting further wars over frontier expansion and control of resources, and then there would have been no united US to enter WWI or WWII (what if the CSA had joined one side in those wars and the USA the other?).
The question is "who" (which grammatically normally indicates a person) "was America's greatest enemy in history?" OP is trying to start an interesting discussion here and everyone wants to derail it with their petty soapboxing. Not impressed.
I voted Krushchev. Of those listed, he was the only one who actually wanted to destroy America and had the power to potentially do so. The Nazis and the Japanese in WWII were really preoccupied with targets closer to home and the US was simply in the way. Bin Laden wanted to but lacked the power.
Actually the nearest alternative choice was Robert E. Lee. His victories came the nearest to permanently tearing the country in half. If secession had actually been sustained, we would now have two countries confronting each other here, possibly fighting further wars over frontier expansion and control of resources, and then there would have been no united US to enter WWI or WWII (what if the CSA had joined one side in those wars and the USA the other?).
I know, but I really don't think that the US has ever had a true "greatest enemy" in a single person. Khrushchev, though he scared us, did nothing to truly harm us, destroy our culture or wreck us economically. Robert E. Lee was a phenomenal general but he wasn't necessarily the "enemy", he was American after all - as far as an "enemy" of any sorts goes the institution of slavery was back then as I see it at least.
Had the US actually split into USA/CSA then I would heartily agree with you about Lee being our greatest enemy, but it did not and here we are.
Now bin Ladin seems such a wee little contender. No real standing army, no ability to absolutely dominate us, in fact he had barely had anything that could harm us, yet he was a catalyst that started a lot of changes in our culture, mindset, economy. IMO we are where we are at right now, directly or indirectly due to the whole "war on Terrorism". If I cannot vote an ideal and have to vote for a person only, he gets my vote.
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