Ampeg stack?

[Ox MJC]

Anyone have or has used an Ampeg PF 800 with a 410 hlf AND a 115he?

 

[carl h.]

No, majorly incompatible cabs. The 115 will blow before the 410 gets going.

Why would you add any 15 to an HLF?

 

[Ox MJC]

Really? I've been told they both are fully compatible, also with the 115 of

 

[mbelue]

Isnt 410hlf 4ohm?
Minimum ohm for Portaflex amps is 4ohms.

 

[Ox MJC]

115 LF , I meant to say....

 

[carl h.]

Still, why add a 15 to the hlf?

 

[Ox MJC]

More headroom

 

[carl h.]

Are both of these the PF line?

"Capable of handling 400 watts, the PF-115LF does away with the compression driver, for a more vintage tone courtesy of a single 15″ Eminence® driver. The PF-410HLF delivers a much-sought-after 4x10″ configuration in a compact design that handles 800 watts."

 

[Ox MJC]

Yes they are all Portaflex. Ash, GC, MF, and Sweetwater all sell them in stacked configuration as well as single cabs

 

[carl h.]

If you need more than one cab, buy two of the same of these cabs. They market them this way, but they don't play well together, even though they may sound OK at lower levels. You will blow out the 15 if you attempt to run these hard together.

The 410 goes lower, higher AND louder than the 15. What - exactly - are you thinking the 15 will be adding to the 410?

 

[Marko 1]

If you need more than one cab, buy two of the same of these cabs. They market them this way, but they don't play well together, even though they may sound OK at lower levels. You will blow out the 15 if you attempt to run these hard together.

The 410 goes lower, higher AND louder than the 15. What - exactly - are you thinking the 15 will be adding to the 410?

Yep.

 

[lokikallas]

At least once a week. It never fails!

 

[Ox MJC]

It's really just for versatility, I mostly want the 15 with the flip top for smaller gigs. I love the head and the idea of the flip top design to travel with one amp package. The stack would be for the larger shows and not used as a flip top.

 

[carl h.]

Then go with 2 15 cabs.

 

[Thundar]

I have no experience with the 410/15 stack, but I can tell you that two of the 115LF's are a killer combination!
Honestly, I don't see how adding a 15 to that 410hlf would be beneficial...unless you just like "the look"... adding another 410hlf would be optimal, IMO

 

[Ox MJC]

Nice set up! Thank you. I'm just totally confused as to why so many objections to adding the 15. Senior product specialist and clinician Dino Monoxelos at Ampeg actually stated in a video shot at NAMM that the ultimate set up for big stage is the PF 800 with the 2 cabs, 410 and 115.

 

[carl h.]

Big stage has PA support so little volume is needed from the actual cabs on stage.

Listening with their eyes comes into play and monkey see monkey do factors in as well. Play the cabs, mix them up and turn them up. See what sounds good to you. I like to see rotisserie chickens as a backline myself...

It's all hype.

 

[Ox MJC]

Also the PF 800 is rated 800 watts @ 4 ohms and 400 watts @ 8ohms , so the 2 cabs would equate to a 4 ohm load which would be A okay as per Ampeg.

 

[carl h.]

Do as you like.

 

[Hi-End Basses]

115 LF , I meant to say....

Okay. That's much different than an HE; a 410 HLF and 115 LF are compatible; both ported and both 8ohms each.