And just for the record, the PF-115LF is not a "flip top" like the HE cabs.....its just a regular cab, but does sound very good
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And just for the record, the PF-115LF is not a "flip top" like the HE cabs.....its just a regular cab, but does sound very good
Yes, I must have wrote LF in error because that was my original choice but the 115 HE is the one I would like
Ahh...ok then. I just didnt want ya to get a big ol surprise if you bought an LF! If having versatility and having flip-top cabs are the most important things here, then in my opinion, youd be safer with a 210HE and a 115HE...unless youre going to be rockin' the piss out of 'em
Yes, the reality is its all just toys, but cool toys. We all could just play a gig with preamp stomp DI and no amp at all. I have 2 HIWATT stacks to contend with in a lot of situations within my band and I like to feel as well as hear my bass in the stage mix. It's just a nice idea ( for me) to have a monstrosity AND a smaller more practical amp all in one portable easy to move package. If you look at ANY classic rock band, did they really need all that gear on stage? Did Entwistle need 4 or 6 stacks? Did Hendrix really need to have 3 or 4 Marshall stacks? Fast forward to Malmsteen with an entire wall? I don't know......
Also I get the sales and marketing thing BUT if a manufacturer says it works it should work. I can't imagine going to a new car/ truck dealership to buy a brand new SUV and the salesman say,... Sure you can drive this truck off a cliff and you will be fine...
Well then thats a horse of a different color...Hehehehehe....if youre looking to compete with those HIWATTS, then DEFINITELY bring the two 410hlf cabs! or maybe two 810's!
Thats exactly what I do with my GK 800RB and Hartke 2x10/1x15, the 800RB is bi-amped and it sounds amazing!!
Those guys in the 60's/ 70's did in fact *need* a bunch of amps/cabs due to limitations in PA system's of that era and to help get their tone as stadium concerts became more common... it sorta turned into a machismo thing in the 80's till now, though smaller/lighter/louder is where its at now
A few too many topics there to generalize on. The 70's features poor PA systems - you had to blast it loud from the stage. Most of the amp stacks now are for show and not even turned on. Think KISS. Without good monitoring on stage, showing up with no rig is a bad idea. For most bar bands, you need a monitor rig.
Two Hiwatt stacks? That's why I advocate two matched cabs. The extra firepower and ability to alter your tone without phasing issues is crucial here.
It's your money. You can do whatever you want. Good luck.
I hate to bust your bubble, but it doesn't work this way. I like ya Bro, and I know you wanna believe Dino and all that shizz....and it WILL work, yes...but in the end, youre putting your own rig and moeny at risk, and that sealed 115HE and ported 410hlf is my idea of a disaster waiting to happen...e.specially if youre competing with two Hiwatt stacks. 30 years ago, there was a reason we stacked 410's on top of 15's, and used crossovers...times have changed and so has bass equipment.
Yes, those cabs stacked IS going to work, and your world will not implode...until that 115HE goes up in dust trying to hang with that 410hlf
The 115 HE is rear ported, that attracted me too. I'll just A B them. Another thing is , it's really just part of a show, I have to disguise things to make them look like vintage Sunns for what I do. Somethings I need a little more beef but it's really not that serious. I know I could probably just get away with one 410 cab, the house system and monitors in larger venues.I hate to bust your bubble, but it doesn't work this way. I like ya Bro, and I know you wanna believe Dino and all that shizz....and it WILL work, yes...but in the end, youre putting your own rig and moeny at risk, and that sealed 115HE and ported 410hlf is my idea of a disaster waiting to happen...e.specially if youre competing with two Hiwatt stacks. 30 years ago, there was a reason we stacked 410's on top of 15's, and used crossovers...times have changed and so has bass equipment.
Yes, those cabs stacked IS going to work, and your world will not implode...until that 115HE goes up in dust trying to hang with that 410hlf
Sounds like you're dead set on going with the cabs and not looking for advice, but agreement.
Not true, it's all cool. They will NOT be used together especially based on this thread. The majority rules so the advice I got in this thread is most appreciated. Most of the comments were against using these cabs together and that's what I wanted to know so I won't risk frying new equipment despite what Ampeg says.
The PF series have a strong visual style to them which may be difficult to convincingly alter. If you are going to re-do the way they look as to make them look like something else on stage, I'd go with the SVT Classic series over the PF series. With the grille removed the SVT are more generic looking than the PF series, and can be found used for good prices just about everywhere.
No, no deep alterations here. The grill material is just about identical to the Sunns I already have. Maybe I will just remove the Ampeg logo and that will suffice. No one really studies amp details , it's really not an issue.
