Yamaha, the top music instrument company by revenue in the world, acquired Ampeg more than 2 years ago. Yamaha released a detailed instruction manual for the 50th Anniversary SVT in 2019 and has had demos of the amp at 2019 and 2020 Winter NAMM and online for a long time. With all its resources, Yamaha held up release for this flagship product more than a year to "tweak a few things"? Really?
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Ampeg SVT 50th Anniversary Edtition
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Really. Other than covid-19, what other reason could it possibly be? Some sinister plot designed solely to try people's patience and turn them off to Ampeg and cut into their own sales?
It does seem strange that the amp was delayed with no explanation on the website. A little transparency may go a long way with consumers. Maybe I missed the memo. I just hope this is not a sign as to what lies ahead with Ampeg products from Yamaha.
I have NO interest in the new SVT head, but I would LOVE a new hybrid head from Ampeg.
The COVID 19 shutdown started in California (where Yamaha Guitar Group is located) on March 19, 2020. I am referring the more than a year that passed between January 2019 NAMM and March 2020 with no SVT product release. That just seems to me like an unduly long period time for Yamaha to do "tweaks." I respect Yamaha and its considerable resources, and want to see Ampeg return to its former glory. Maybe then I will buy a new Ampeg, to go with my Ampegs from the 1960s-1970s.
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Need I remind you guys what happened when LOUD bought Ampeg from SLM? The first two years were a disaster because LOUD rushed new products onto the market that they manufactured and ended up eating a lot of returns as a result. The head idiot of LOUD got asked to resign by the end of the second year. May I also remind you guys what happened with the PF500 and SVT 7 Pro, great products that weren't quite ready for prime time by the time they were released? They ate a lot of returns on them, too, and the 7 Pro had problems for years till a heftier chip got invented to replace the chip that was the source of the problems. In the meantime, they lost a fair amount of potential customers over these problems. You guys want a repeat of those incidents simply because you're impatient?
Once again, folks on here are doing nothing to disprove my theory that if Talkbassers were given control of a successful large MI company, said company would be bankrupt within a year. Yes, we all want new products yesterday. Who doesn't? They do, too. But the long run costs of rushing new products to market are much higher than the costs of making you all wait a little longer than you think is reasonable. In the meantime, there are plenty of good Ampeg products still available. Settle down
That "shutdown madness" is saving lives and we would have had many less deaths if the "shutdown madness" had started sooner.
Kinda insulting. Somehow three friends and I managed to found and control a successful bass amp company we started in a garage in Pacoima, CA that lasted for a lot more than a year. So it is possible. That aside, again, I am hoping for Yamaha/Ampeg's success with the new SVT.Once again, folks on here are doing nothing to disprove my theory that if Talkbassers were given control of a successful large MI company, said company would be bankrupt within a year.
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Bet you didn't put out products you weren't 100% happy with the tech aspects, then.
I didn't interpret his comment as being against saving lives, FTR.
Probably not but the effect is still the same whether people know it or not, people need to realize why everything is shut down. I can't even leave Peru until the beginning of September, the airports out here are shut down, we're quarantined to the house out here until the end of July, can only go out for essential things such as food or medicine and only one at a time but the upshot of it is is that we have a much lower per capita rate of illness and death than the US has and we're not one of the better countries either. The only madness I see going on in the states is people trying to rush back out and spread Coronavirus.
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Enough with the BS and here's the problem.
We got a guy in a blues band acting as a spokesman for a company that did $282B in their musical instruments division last year.
We have two actual employees that worked for the original company and presumably for the new parent company that visit this board. They post occasionally but nothing substantial about where the old Ampeg is headed, new product development, or about the release of something new and desirable that was supposed to hit the market for an anniversary a long time ago.
Jimmy, I get that you are an influencer on this board and probably a heck of a nice guy, but I don't think you have any real information about what is going on at the corporate level. If you do, let's hear some facts and not speculation.
PS - I currently own 4 Ampeg products (2 amps & 2 pre-amps) and at least 8 other amplifiers over the past 40 years. I am a loyal customer but frustrated by Yamaha's inability to communicate. It feels disrespectful from a consumer level especially after having spent many thousands of dollars on gear and a few hundred in repairs on defects.
Enough with the BS and here's the problem.
We got a guy in a blues band acting as a spokesman for a company that did $282B in their musical instruments division last year.
We have two actual employees that worked for the original company and presumably for the new parent company that visit this board. They post occasionally but nothing substantial about where the old Ampeg is headed, new product development, or about the release of something new and desirable that was supposed to hit the market for an anniversary a long time ago.
Jimmy, I get that you are an influencer on this board and probably a heck of a nice guy, but I don't think you have any real information about what is going on at the corporate level. If you do, let's hear some facts and not speculation.
PS - I currently own 4 Ampeg products (2 amps & 2 pre-amps) and at least 8 other amplifiers over the past 40 years. I am a loyal customer but frustrated by Yamaha's inability to communicate. It feels disrespectful from a consumer level especially after having spent many thousands of dollars on gear and a few hundred in repairs on defects.
A video update from Dino?
Jim, ordinarily I like you and that's why I'm not going to go off on your very ill-informed post essentially calling me a liar.Enough with the BS and here's the problem.
We got a guy in a blues band acting as a spokesman for a company that did $282B in their musical instruments division last year.
We have two actual employees that worked for the original company and presumably for the new parent company that visit this board. They post occasionally but nothing substantial about where the old Ampeg is headed, new product development, or about the release of something new and desirable that was supposed to hit the market for an anniversary a long time ago.
Jimmy, I get that you are an influencer on this board and probably a heck of a nice guy, but I don't think you have any real information about what is going on at the corporate level. If you do, let's hear some facts and not speculation.
EDIT: Changed my mind. See a few posts down.
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Did you watch the video? The difference is channel 1 breaks up the same way it did and sounded back in 69. Channel 2 doesn't break up as easy giving you more headroom, a cleaner tone, and more bottom end. You can also blend both channels giving you a dirtier grunting channel with more headroom. This is something completely different than a standard new age SVT. The ones everyone keeps making threads about saying they can't get a dirty grindy tone out of. This is an SVT. Its actually 2 of them...in one amp. 1 for the rock, one for the everything else, totally blendable to taste. Amazing
Curves start to flatten after lockdowns, distancing, etc. are implemented. There are countless examples. Is this just a remarkable coincidence? Does the virus just happen to get tired at that point?
Revisiting this post because I thought we were fairly tight as far as Talkbass goes, and to get a response basically calling me a liar like this coming from you sucks. Let's address it in more detail...Enough with the BS and here's the problem.
We got a guy in a blues band acting as a spokesman for a company that did $282B in their musical instruments division last year.
We have two actual employees that worked for the original company and presumably for the new parent company that visit this board. They post occasionally but nothing substantial about where the old Ampeg is headed, new product development, or about the release of something new and desirable that was supposed to hit the market for an anniversary a long time ago.
Jimmy, I get that you are an influencer on this board and probably a heck of a nice guy, but I don't think you have any real information about what is going on at the corporate level. If you do, let's hear some facts and not speculation.
1. I am not a spokesman for Ampeg, I do not get paid by Ampeg, nor have I claimed to be privy to inside corporate information. Occasionally I get very general non-specific info such as this, and it's not my place to delve further into it. So if you think I don't have any real information at the corporate level, my response is "No ----."
2. We HAD two or three actual Ampeg employees on here, but the constant hostility directed toward them by people on here simply for having a job with Ampeg, despite their many attempts to be helpful and informative, drove them off. This is a constant theme on here, and the entire reason more people in top positions in the industry refuse to have anything to do with Talkbass.
3. Yamaha's thoroughness when it comes to new releases of electronic equipment is legendary throughout the industry, they do not like to release new gear unless every tiny aspect has been inspected and approved many times over by the head engineering staff, and this is not the first time it's happened. Don't believe me? Ask Andy Field.
4. Instead of making up your own wildly inaccurate theory about why the 50th SVT has been pushed back, you are free to contact Ampeg and YGG and ask them directly. Their contact info is available and public. But of course, that's no fun, and it's a lot more fun to make up your own story and attack others for not playing along with your made-up story.
I do my best to be helpful to everyone who has a question on here that I think I can answer, Ampeg gear or not. Sometimes I can answer, sometimes I can't. If I can't, I am not the least bit shy about telling you I can't. I'm also not the least bit shy about telling people to take a hike when they screw with me, and you are screwing with me. Only thing stopping me from giving you the heave ho is previous interactions that I'd consider positive. But this came out of absolutely nowhere, and if you think I'm happily going to take being blindsided like this, think again.
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Who said anything about "rushing" anything to market??Need I remind you guys what happened when LOUD bought Ampeg from SLM? The first two years were a disaster because LOUD rushed new products onto the market that they manufactured and ended up eating a lot of returns as a result. The head idiot of LOUD got asked to resign by the end of the second year. May I also remind you guys what happened with the PF500 and SVT 7 Pro, great products that weren't quite ready for prime time by the time they were released? They ate a lot of returns on them, too, and the 7 Pro had problems for years till a heftier chip got invented to replace the chip that was the source of the problems. In the meantime, they lost a fair amount of potential customers over these problems. You guys want a repeat of those incidents simply because you're impatient?
Once again, folks on here are doing nothing to disprove my theory that if Talkbassers were given control of a successful large MI company, said company would be bankrupt within a year. Yes, we all want new products yesterday. Who doesn't? They do, too. But the long run costs of rushing new products to market are much higher than the costs of making you all wait a little longer than you think is reasonable. In the meantime, there are plenty of good Ampeg products still available. Settle down
Well, Ok then, I will defer to your obviously superior judgement and knowledge in the area of viruses and pandemics and how to prevent their spread.
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