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Ampeg SVT-6 Pro or SVT-7 Pro?

#23
georgestrings said:
I guess the main point(s) would be not to buy either the PH 500 or SVT 7 Pro used, because:

- Both have been known to have reliablility issues, despite your excuses and/or denials...

- Ampeg won't warranty them if you've bought them used, regardless of their actual age...

Lastly - according to Ampeg's own words, if the user keeps the knobs below 12 o'clock, they *might* be OK - although *I* wouldn't gig an amp that needed a backup as much as either of those apparantly do...
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"ApparEntly."

:D

OK, so last time I'm going to say this...Ampeg and Mackie share a CS dept. Most of the CS personnel have a background in pro sound, not bass playing, and that is normal advice given to people buying PA gear, and pro sound people often mistakenly think that all bass players and pro sound people have the same goal...the cleanest sound possible with the least chance of clipping. So in that sense, it's good advice. Should they do a little re-education to the sound people who answer bass amp calls? Probably. But large companies with large CS departments don't always have every single person working CS as perfect as you would like them to be. Hey, you're awesome and perfect, but not everyone is. Welcome to the world.

But I have run my PF head many times with both gain and master over noon, including last night on my gig, and it was fine. A federal case it's not, despite your attempts to keep making it a federal case.
 
#25
JimmyM said:
"ApparEntly."

:D

OK, so last time I'm going to say this...Ampeg and Mackie share a CS dept. Most of the CS personnel have a background in pro sound, not bass playing, and that is normal advice given to people buying PA gear, and pro sound people often mistakenly think that all bass players and pro sound people have the same goal...the cleanest sound possible with the least chance of clipping. So in that sense, it's good advice. Should they do a little re-education to the sound people who answer bass amp calls? Probably. But large companies with large CS departments don't always have every single person working CS as perfect as you would like them to be. Hey, you're awesome and perfect, but not everyone is. Welcome to the world.

But I have run my PF head many times with both gain and master over noon, including last night on my gig, and it was fine. A federal case it's not, despite your attempts to keep making it a federal case.
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Actually, it is quite common to run the knobs wide open on PA power amps, so where exactly are you getting the above from??? Truthfully, it seems like a made up excuse in an attempt to cover for a lame response from Ampeg...


- georgestrings
 
#26
Truthfully, you're just doing this to see what I'll say anyway. So go ahead and be obtuse on purpose if you want, but it's just annoying and causes me to blow you off when you say something nice once in a while.

Look, everyone who's ever been around pro PA systems knows that if they have to turn up the volume past half of what's available to them, they consider it time to expand and upgrade. Where the knobs are positioned on the power amps is immaterial because they aren't what they're using to control volume. So your retort designed more to wind me up than anything is dismissed.
 
#27
JimmyM said:
Truthfully, you're just doing this to see what I'll say anyway. So go ahead and be obtuse on purpose if you want, but it's just annoying and causes me to blow you off when you say something nice once in a while.

Look, everyone who's ever been around pro PA systems knows that if they have to turn up the volume past half of what's available to them, they consider it time to expand and upgrade. Where the knobs are positioned on the power amps is immaterial because they aren't what they're using to control volume. So your retort designed more to wind me up than anything is dismissed.
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I'm really not trying to do any such thing, bud - I respect your pro experience quite a bit, but you lose some credability with some of the excuse making for Ampeg... and this latest one is really grasping for straws...

I have a fair amount of PA experience, actually - if you weren't talking about power amp knobs, exactly what PA gear are you talking about??? It certainly couldn't be channel or main faders, since it's quite common to run them more than "halfway", and there really isn't a "12 o'clock" on them, anyways...


- georgestrings
 
#29
JimmyM said:
Sounds like you need a bigger PA then.
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Not really - but by all means, please post what PA gear shouldn't be pushed past "12 o'clock" - and be specific, now - otherwise, it's become obvious that you pulled that one out of your *** in a lame attempt to defend Ampeg yet again...

Again, I totally respect your professional experience, but that was a bit pathetic...


- georgestrings
 
#31
bassguppy said:
With around a 1% failure rate it's difficult to be any more reliable. ;-)
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Where did you pull that number from, the statistical wish granting genie? :)

Seriously, I was making a play on what B said and then posted a recommendation, nothing more.

I might not personally like Ampig products that much, and I had my day with their product, but I also know that people have different tastes, heck lots of people think that not flossing their teeth looks good! ( they must right cause they have that bread looking stuff in the cracks? )
 
#34
To provide some potentially helpful info to the OP... I have owned both the 6 and the 7.

I didn't love the 7 Pro. Lots of volume available, and it does have that characteristic Ampeg bouncy midrange. I didn't dig the overdrive - the one lonesome tube just didn't get a sweet growl, for me.

The 6 Pro was a whole different animal. Huge sounding. If you want to crack a concrete foundation, this amp will do it. Good range of tones, nice compressor, great growl. Also very heavy, and all those mosfets are prone to drifting bias and outright failure.

I don't have either amp anymore. I do have a sweet SVT II, though. :)
 
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#38
JimmyM said:
I have not played it, but folks who have tell me the 6 Pro is a very nice amp and one of their favorite Ampeg hybrids. However, it's been discontinued for 5-6 years at this point, and I can't imagine parts for it getting easier to find over the years should it take a dump.
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Most of the general electronic parts are shared with units like the 4 PRO, which means better availability. MOST Ampeg from the time period of these units, say mid 90s to the Loud purchase, share general parts, including mosfets, controls, switches, etc, etc.

If those are a problem, it won't just be the 6PRO in trouble.
 
#39
Jerrold Tiers said:
Most of the general electronic parts are shared with units like the 4 PRO, which means better availability. MOST Ampeg from the time period of these units, say mid 90s to the Loud purchase, share general parts, including mosfets, controls, switches, etc, etc.

If those are a problem, it won't just be the 6PRO in trouble.
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That's good to hear.
 
#40
It really depends on what kind of sound you are going for. I like the sound of a tube head so I use a 6 pro.
RMS Power Output (8 Ohms): 750-Watts
RMS Power Output (4 Ohms): 1100-Watts
Preamp: Tubes (2 x 12AX7)
Driver Tubes: 2 x 12AU7, 2 x 12AX7
Power Amp: Mosfet

The 7 Pro has one pre-amp tube and to me, it has more of a solid state sound.

• RMS power output:
• 1000 watts @ 4 ohms
• 600 watts @ 8 ohms
• Preamp: Tube ( 1 × JJ 12AX7)
• Power amp: Class D
 
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