... and the Berlin wall came tumbling down

[JimmyM]

when i play fretless i try to play like bill wyman.

 

[Eminentbass]

That could be. And I will say, that is one of the things that I admire about Jeff - that he treats the bass guitar like a real instrument that deserves a serious academic curriculum.

I don't understand how all other instruments get taught with serious discipline but with guitar and electric bass it seems acceptable to compromise the quality of education and allow some people who clearly know nothing to charge money for lessons when they have no real background or knowledge of the deeper fundamentals of music in general. Maybe it's the shorter heritage of the instruments or just that they're easier to get away with being a hack on in today's music scene.

 

[Eminentbass]

when i play fretless i try to play like bill wyman.

Bill plays fretless? Wow, I thought the out of tune bass on "start me up" was because because he took Jeff's advice and stopped using a tuner

 

[5StringBlues]

General consensus is that Wyman was the first to pull the frets from a bass in 1961 or so.

 

[Eminentbass]

General consensus is that Wyman was the first to pull the frets from a bass in 1961 or so.

Haha, my above post wasn't serious but I must admit that I never knew about that bit of bass history.

 

[Darkstrike]

The first *known* player at least, some guys on here claim to have done it earlier.

 

[5StringBlues]

^ Right.

 

[PhatBasstard]

Bill plays fretless? Wow, I thought the out of tune bass on "start me up" was because because he took Jeff's advice and stopped using a tuner

Excuse me. The bass player is always perfectly in tune.

It's the rest of the band that is always uniformly out of tune.
(So it is said, let it be written)

FWIW, I thought I read somewhere it wasn't even Bill on that track.
If it was Keith or Woody, it might actually be the bass.

 

[Jim Campbell]

Honestly, I'm probably just getting a bit too old to put up with people talking trash to me. And I've honestly never read anything by Jeff that I found that incredibly original or informative, or that I couldn't have learned from other people or sources. Maybe I just missed some choice posts, but I'm not too interested in wading though the garbage to find it. Maybe those younger and/or more patient than I are willing.

And maybe that's the answer - let him back in, and those of us who tire of him can feel free to ignore him. I'm planning on spending most of my time in the DB forums these days anyway, and I know I won't see him there ...

that's the wisest thing i've read all day.....watering everything down everything to a disney level does not
foster adult discourse...imho

 

[Sam Evans]

watering everything down everything to a disney level does not
foster adult discourse...imho

I agree. I do like to see people treat each other with a bit o' respect, though.

 

[Pacman]

And maybe that's the answer - let him back in, and those of us who tire of him can feel free to ignore him.

The problem with this line of action is at least twofold. First, he won't be ignored because he has a habit of lobbing little grenades at those who've had run-ins with him before. He was warned on *several* occasions to stop this (as were those who lobbed them back - at least one of whom got the idea). Secondly, others will see his posting style and think it's ok to post in the same manner. This is why the rules are applied to everyone, despite those who will say otherwise.



Also, the course of this discussion has now run counter to the rules, since it's now a big questioning of moderator actions. Rather than clean up all the posts that do that, I'm just going to close this thread.