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Anyone else just HATE Apple?

#143
iamlowsound said:
I have never seen a more user friendly mp3 player with more space for less money.
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Ever try a Sansa? I got an 8 GB one two years ago for roughly $80 new. Came with video, radio, and a host of other functions I never used. I didn't have to format my media. Simply C&P from your My Music folder into its folder in my computer (when you plug it in)

I know, its only 8 GB but you get a lot of cool stuff with it (including a light up version of the iPod's scroll wheel) and its built like a tank. I thought iPods were nice but I couldn't work the touch scroll wheel. My Sansa solved that problem with the plastic scroll wheel that lights up. Its built like a tank, I've abused this thing so much and it still works, hell its even gone through the wash!

Also, unlike the iPod it utilizes a flash drive instead of a hard drive. Every move an iPod around a lot and it skips? Or got out in freezing cold weather and have it freeze or skip? The Sansa doesn't. Also, for some reason I'm able to store more than my sisters 8GB iPod Nano. My Sansa is only a few millimeters bigger than the nano.

PS Sansa has great customer service to, from what I remember. Mine was damaged during shipping (entire box was crushed, I can't believe USPS even delivered it) Sansa paid for shipping both ways and sent me a new unit ASAP.
 
#144
Sonic_Death said:
The fact that you use a Mac is fine, and I have no problem with it. Just realize that any problems you had with a windows machine may very well be your own fault. It is not difficult to keep the machine clean and running smoothly.
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True... to a certain extent. I use both... as stated before... and more problems pop up on the PC then with the Mac (in my experience). I consider myself pretty computer savvy, especially when I see friends and relatives struggle with the simpleist of operations (installing, networking, etc.). I can see where the "average" computer user would get VERY frustrated when things do not work simply. Apple tries to make things simple... and as others have said... they just work.

I do foresee in the near future that the playing field will be more level now that Mac is using Intel processors and running Windows via Boot Camp or Parallels.

The simple fact is that virus authors have no incentive to write malicious code for Macs (yet) since their market share is way below 10%.
 
#145
Sean S said:
You mean return Office to Mac? Invalid Link Removed
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Do you know how to read? It said it was written by Microsoft for Mac. If you also bothered to read the article, it contradicts itself. Congratulations on using wikipedia to further your knowledge because you know if its on wikipedia, it must be true.
 
#146
iamlowsound said:
It is rather easy to use the click wheel while driving. Push button for navigation? Well it would have made them just like every other mp3 player on the market. Gotta do something to stand out. The touch is even easier to use.

lowsound
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I can't work that thing at all! Maybe I'm just ********? Thats another reason why I love my Sansa, it has a ridged plastic touch wheel so its easy to use and I don't keep skipping back and forth over things.
 
#147
Dave Grossman said:
People seem to think that Macs are so much better for recording (not saying you do). However, just the other day a friend was telling me how he can do remote recording with his Mac at a whopping 8 channels at 44kHz/16bits. Meanwhile, with my 4 year old Sony VAIO PC running XP, I can record 14 channels at 96kHz/24bits. That's only due to a limitation of the optical connection between my Focusrite OctoPre and MOTU 828 mkII. At 44kHz, I can record 18 channels. This is my portable recording rig too.

- Dave
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I have a similar story. I bought a SONY VAIO laptop in August and spent a little less than two grand. Mind you I maxed every hardware option I could for it, par the extended battery. I now have 240GB of memory on my hard drive, 2.4 gigs of RAM, Vista (:hmm:), Intel Dual Core Processors, and a 17 inch 1080 Hi-Def Screen. Not to mention the best graphic and sound cards that SONY offered.

My friend Aubrey spent $2400 on a Mac in March and every single piece of hardware in my Sony is more powerful or better than her Mac.

Our usual line of arguments.
"My Mac is better than your PC"
"Mines new and all my hardware is better than yours"
"So? Mine is better and video and music editing?"
"Erm... here look..."

Suffice to say she's saving for a VAIO.
 
#148
iamlowsound said:
So you took eight paragraphs to prove that macs are more user friendly. I already knew that. Nothing like buying a new camera, plugging it into my computer and not having to install any new software in order to download the pictures. Wait, I also did that with my printer and video camera as well.

lowsound
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You do realize that a lot of things are just plug n' play right?

Hell I just "installed" a new printer this morning. By install I mean hooking up the cable to the computer, plugging it in to the wall, and then printing out my final paper for English. Took me about 50 seconds.
 
#149
Rusty Chainsaw said:
It's always been easy to upgrade stuff like RAM and hard drives in a Mac. Plug them in and go. Motherboards and processors are another matter. This is deliberate on Apple's part though - not to frustrate the more advanced user who likes to tinker, more to make life easier for the less advanced user who just wants things to work. With Apple controlling both the hardware and the software, one is made to work specifically with the other. None of the PC user's worry about having the correct drivers, BIOS settings and so on. Yes, a 7-year-old Mac will pretty much be obsolete now, but so will a 7-year-old PC - good luck installing XP on a machine like that.
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I have Windows XP Professional running on Dell which we bought in 1998! It wasn't a high end Dell either. No problems with it ever, cept for the CD drive conking out last year.
 
#150
Apple needs to definitely fix their OS X.
Now I have used both, and the Macs that I have used were SLOW. That is a reason why I don't own one! (Macs used: iMac's The "Bubble" and the new ones. Older G5 and G4 with the tower also). I own a few Windows PC's (one Vista and one XP; XP computer is krap, it has unsolved issues).

Vista has some nice features in it, but it does use up some memory. I have had no problems with just 1 GB RAM. I personally really like Vista (Home Premium)
 
#151
BellBottomBlues said:
I have a similar story. I bought a SONY VAIO laptop in August and spent a little less than two grand. Mind you I maxed every hardware option I could for it, par the extended battery. I now have 240GB of memory on my hard drive, 2.4 gigs of RAM, Vista (:hmm:), Intel Dual Core Processors, and a 17 inch 1080 Hi-Def Screen. Not to mention the best graphic and sound cards that SONY offered.

My friend Aubrey spent $2400 on a Mac in March and every single piece of hardware in my Sony is more powerful or better than her Mac.

Our usual line of arguments.
"My Mac is better than your PC"
"Mines new and all my hardware is better than yours"
"So? Mine is better and video and music editing?"
"Erm... here look..."

Suffice to say she's saving for a VAIO.
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Vista Requirements ;

Processor : 1.0 GHz
Ram : 1 Gb
HD Free Space : 15 Gb

Mac OS 10.5 Requirements ;

Processor : 867 MHz
Ram : 512 Mb
HD Free Space : 9 Gb


Needless to say, with 2000$ you get a decent Mac machine and an average Windows running machine. Makes sense to me why you would pay more for the specs. Also a gigabyte of ram may vary from 30$ to 80$ (On TigerDirect.Ca) which also gives doubts about the quality of the product used.
 
#152
BellBottomBlues said:
I have a similar story. I bought a SONY VAIO laptop in August and spent a little less than two grand. Mind you I maxed every hardware option I could for it, par the extended battery. I now have 240GB of memory on my hard drive, 2.4 gigs of RAM, Vista (:hmm:), Intel Dual Core Processors, and a 17 inch 1080 Hi-Def Screen. Not to mention the best graphic and sound cards that SONY offered.

My friend Aubrey spent $2400 on a Mac in March and every single piece of hardware in my Sony is more powerful or better than her Mac.

Our usual line of arguments.
"My Mac is better than your PC"
"Mines new and all my hardware is better than yours"
"So? Mine is better and video and music editing?"
"Erm... here look..."

Suffice to say she's saving for a VAIO.
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So wait, one person spent $2400 on a computer in March and another spent less money 5 months later and got a computer with better hardware? That's surprising. :hmm: That's always been my experience when dealing with computers in the $2K+ range.

It's also the reason that people normally buy new Macs right around the time that hardware revisions occur.
 
#153
BellBottomBlues said:
Ever try a Sansa? I got an 8 GB one two years ago for roughly $80 new. Came with video, radio, and a host of other functions I never used. I didn't have to format my media. Simply C&P from your My Music folder into its folder in my computer (when you plug it in)

I know, its only 8 GB but you get a lot of cool stuff with it (including a light up version of the iPod's scroll wheel) and its built like a tank. I thought iPods were nice but I couldn't work the touch scroll wheel. My Sansa solved that problem with the plastic scroll wheel that lights up. Its built like a tank, I've abused this thing so much and it still works, hell its even gone through the wash!

Also, unlike the iPod it utilizes a flash drive instead of a hard drive. Every move an iPod around a lot and it skips? Or got out in freezing cold weather and have it freeze or skip? The Sansa doesn't. Also, for some reason I'm able to store more than my sisters 8GB iPod Nano. My Sansa is only a few millimeters bigger than the nano.

PS Sansa has great customer service to, from what I remember. Mine was damaged during shipping (entire box was crushed, I can't believe USPS even delivered it) Sansa paid for shipping both ways and sent me a new unit ASAP.
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I have an 8GB Sansa as well. I love it! My only complaint? Slow boot time. That's it!
 
#155
This is something I noticed when I was getting my XP Laptop for college and my friends were getting Macbooks. Some of them spent up to $2400, meanwhile, I have the same specs as them (for the most part) and only spent $1300. Granted I did get an awesome $750 coupon on a laptop thats over $2000, but once again, that's something you'd never get on a Mac I suppose haha.

PC laptop's tend to be much more customizable, and as long as you shop around a bit and don't buy into a bad brand, odds are you'd get a nice machine for fairly cheap. One of the huge downfalls of having so many different brands and types of Windows laptops is that most people don't know what to look for and you can stuck with a real lemon.
 
#157
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#159
Never had a Mac (PC only). I own 2 iPods: 20GB 3G, 30GB Video (both still work, no problems yet).

The main things I like about Apple is that they seem to be more innovative.

- The computer inside the monitor concept, I just saw a Dell advertisement with the same thing, 2 years later.

- The magnetic power adapter...genius.

- The G4 Mac with the hinged case for adding PCI cards, infinitely better than screws into an ill-fitting sheet metal chassis.

- The look and feel of all their products always seems to be superior (but you pay for it).

The other thing, like it or not, Steve Jobs is amazing at marketing. The white iPod against black silhouette while Jet's "Are You Gonna Be My Girl" was an effective ad. The Mac vs. PC ones are also funny.

I am pondering getting a Mac Mini to hook into my Home Theater, the format/design is great and I am curious to actually experience using a Mac.

Later
Rob
 

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