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Anyone Tried the Paleo Diet?

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AciDBatH666 said:
I haven't been exactly on paleo, but I've started keto last year. Basically eliminating carbs and sugars, and sticking with a diet high in protein and fats. Hardest part is figuring out what kind of snacks works for you. I don't eat vegetables, so that was another struggle. I went from 214 to 160. And then I bought a house that needed lots of work at the beginning of the year. I was back and forth between the house and my apartment so cooking was a struggle. So I then decided to lay off the full blown ketosis, and just casually change my diet while I was between the house and apartment. I managed to gain about 10 pounds up to 170, but just my casually limiting the carbs and not eating full blown whatever I want, I've been able to keep my weight steady and not go above it.

I'm currently looking to get back into full blown ketosis to get down to about 155 and then look into switching to paleo or a lightened form of it. I still eat what I want, but I balance it out.
In case you weren't sure, your body first tries to burn carbs and sugars. When you eliminate these, your metabolism flips and starts to burn your stored fat for energy. So my diet consists of a LOT of bacon, eggs, steak, cheese, pork rinds, monster no sugar/carbs energy drinks, and a chocolate mousse recipe from caveman keto. When you're in ketosis, you can actually measure it. Cvs and other places have "Ketostix", these sticks you pee on to show how many ketones are in your urine. So you can actually tell if you're in fat-burning mode or not.

Not trying to derail, a lot of keto people end up doing some kind of form of paleo. And that's my goal as well. Oh and my weight loss was with minimal working out. It was about 90% diet. View attachment 437132
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How long did it take initially? Like from 214 to 160? Those are impressive results though
 
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We evolved with intestinal parasites, so the true paleolithic diet would presumably include a dose of roundworms or tapeworms. It would also mean a fair chance of dying of starvation. It makes more sense to argue for a particular diet based on evidence of its efficacy, nothing else.
 
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Journey55 said:
How long did it take initially? Like from 214 to 160? Those are impressive results though
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I tracked it all with weekly emails to myself with pics. It looks like I started 4/4/2013 and stopped recording 8/7/2013. So around 4 months total of hardcore keto.
I took a break or two and carb'd up once every month to let my metabolism catch up so that I didn't get too far ahead of myself and gain it all back quickly.
I'm happy with my control after stopping. I still kind of eat what I want, I just made the change to avoid carbs and sugars for the most part and I've had no trouble staying at 170. It's a Lifestyle change. Getting started is the toughest part
 
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Just get plenty of exercise and watch your portions. No need for elaborate menus or lengthy restaurant menu perusal. Generally eat with heart health in mind and everything else will work fine too. IMO of course, just from watching a couple dozen people every year struggle to find the perfect plan.
 
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blue4 said:
Just get plenty of exercise and watch your portions. No need for elaborate menus or lengthy restaurant menu perusal. Generally eat with heart health in mind and everything else will work fine too. IMO of course, just from watching a couple dozen people every year struggle to find the perfect plan.
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Truly, a lot of people just eat way too much of everything, portion control doesn't always equate to being hungry as many people seem to think.

For me a paleo(ish) diet works good with a bit of exercise. I can't carb up too much anyway because I'll get high blood sugar, so I stick with low carb veggies, very little fruit and plenty of fats and am careful not to overdo the protein. I'm not as fit as some but not too bad, six foot tall and 185 lbs, could stand to lose another 7 or 8 lbs while gaining a little more muscle to lean out a bit.

Anyway, I think people need to experiment around to find a diet and exercise program that works for them. The "one size fits all" idea for a diet is starting to lose it's appeal for a lot of people, but with a little time and effort I truly believe many can find something that is healthy and works for them. Paleo isn't a bad place to start.
 
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buldog5151bass said:
Or just to taste ok - capers is one example. Love em, but straight off the plant - yuck.
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Stuff that doesn't taste great I can understand people eating if the alternative is starving. There are foodstuffs now I don't much like. But stuff that when Ug and Grak first encountered killed Ug when he ate it wouldn't seem to naturally have sparked the thought "Hey, that could be great eating if I go through a complex five stage process".
 
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BboogieXVII said:
Truly, a lot of people just eat way too much of everything, portion control doesn't always equate to being hungry as many people seem to think.
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The true paleo diet would have no particular regard for portion size as mammoth may be on the menu today but there might not be anything on the menu next week, so eat mammoth today as your survival may depend on it. That may well be part of why people now do get overweight, as whilst mammoth is not on the menu at all, cow, roots and berries can be every day.
 
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buldog5151bass said:
What can I say? We've evolved, and our life expectancy has more than doubled, not to mention quality of life. And somehow we think going backwards will help.
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Extreme morbid obesity was almost unheard of until about 40 years ago, now it's an epidemic. How is that evolving? What has happened is there has been a metric ton of bad nutritional advice handed down from the authorities, people believed it and gave into it and VIOLA!* We suddenly have epidemics of obesity, heart disease, diabetes and this new thing called alzheimer's disease. All caused by nutritional advice presented to us from the authorities over the course of the last 40 or so years.


*I like violas and viola players, so this is intentional.
 
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I was sorta forced into a paleo-like diet, but I don't mind at all. Almost two years ago I found out I'd caught the diabeetus and had high blood pressure and acid reflux to go with it. Luckily, I'm a type 2 diabetic, meaning it's well controlled with medication. I went from 320 to 265 in about, oh, five months. I've put some back on because I'm not exercising like I was before (basically some calisthenics and walking) and not eating as carefully, but I like the basic paleo plan because it's easy to work with. Eat good quality critter and have some a bunch of colored veggies. I've really come to like steamed veggies, which is a rather sizable change from where I was before; then if I ate veggies, they were almost always starches. Now almost none of it is, with the exception of the very occasional sweet potato.

Being diagnosed with a couple maladies and treating them finally lead me to feeling better than I have in a long, long time.
 
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BboogieXVII said:
Extreme morbid obesity was almost unheard of until about 40 years ago, now it's an epidemic. How is that evolving? What has happened is there has been a metric ton of bad nutritional advice handed down from the authorities, people believed it and gave into it and VIOLA!* We suddenly have epidemics of obesity, heart disease, diabetes and this new thing called alzheimer's disease. All caused by nutritional advice presented to us from the authorities over the course of the last 40 or so years.


*I like violas and viola players, so this is intentional.
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I'm not sure that heart disease and Alzheimer's is 40 yrs old. People have been dying of heart disease since there have been people. People have also gone foggy as they age as well, just now medical science has started documenting and looking to treat it. The fact is that your genetics can have as much to do with your overall health as your diet. Heck, my wife's mother's family has been dying prematurely from heart disease since they walked off the boat in 1730. Blaming nutrition is far too simplistic.
 
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BboogieXVII said:
Extreme morbid obesity was almost unheard of until about 40 years ago, now it's an epidemic. How is that evolving? What has happened is there has been a metric ton of bad nutritional advice handed down from the authorities, people believed it and gave into it and VIOLA!* We suddenly have epidemics of obesity, heart disease, diabetes and this new thing called alzheimer's disease. All caused by nutritional advice presented to us from the authorities over the course of the last 40 or so years.


*I like violas and viola players, so this is intentional.
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Im pretty sure obese people are not following anyone's advice on nutrition. Theyre pretty much eating whatever they want whenever they want.

The authorities' recommendations, while not perfect, haven't been bad enough to cause obesity. It's the convenient, high calorie processed foods with next to no nutritional value that dominate today's diets that have.
 

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