Not so easy if you're uneducated and under qualified.
The best thing going around here is the Hershey plant where they pay $10/hour and they go through employees like folks go through toilet paper.
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Are we just getting too soft?
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Not so easy if you're uneducated and under qualified.
The best thing going around here is the Hershey plant where they pay $10/hour and they go through employees like folks go through toilet paper.
Low wages and no work in a right to work state? Why, that's not the bill of goods we're sold here in MO every year like clockwork.
Tribalism, it's bad. The history of social progress in civilization is all about overcoming tribalism.
I'm looking for a job right now, there are so many degree-requiring jobs that pay <$15/hr.
Actually, prison does not violate the 13th since the party was convicted in a court of law. Curiously, the military draft, and by extension Selective Service, does indeed violate the 13th.
13th Amendment
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
I was paid pretty handsomely at one point in my life, and I did have to sling my share of BS during that time.
Indeed. What entertainment have we been treated to in the last few pages? "Society" owes its citizens middle-class or better employment, free higher education and health care, and hotel accommodations for sad souls who would otherwise be productive citizens, but were driven to commit crime by [insert your preferred nonsense sympathetic excuse for crime]. No, no one bears any responsibility for themselves, "society" is at once fully responsible and fully to blame if anyone fails. First rate comedy indeed...
It is common practice for those who cannot make a fact based argument to take an opposing view to the extreme to negate it. You have done this here.
I am a believer in personal responsibility, but I don't expect people to behave in a different way than expected when given a certain upbringing, genetic make-up, education, and opportunities. On the whole I consider this more realistic than assuming that each one of us is entirely free to decide ones own destiny, and that any of us are immune to outside influence or pressures, including those of society.
My personal experience has shown me that most people are capable of behaving altruistically and selfishly in various combinations and at different times, and that most people have a shifting moral compass and will behave differently based on circumstance and many other conditions.
I also feel that being expected to work full time and not be able to live frugally off that wage is a terribly low bar for a society to set for itself when framing the laws and regulations that determine such things. You mentioned middle class wages, I didn't and neither did anyone else. Strawman argument.
I also feel the so-called free market does not exist, and the recent trend towards expecting it to organize all aspects of our society is a dangerous and silly one.
All societies take care of those that cannot take care of themselves, by supporting, ostracizing, or killing them.
Free healthcare? No, shared risk. Why not free higher education? Why should the rich be the only ones entitled to get what is now needed for a decently paying job? It is out of a desire to give more people a chance to succeed that I believe these should be a goal of any modern society.
These are not wildly optimistic or Utopian goals for a society with the wealth and technology your country has, it's too bad so many people have been convinced that their freedom and choice will be constrained by it, and that they are unaware they themselves will largely be the beneficiaries.
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Bravo to your entire post, but this line really stood out to me.
To those in favor of privatizing and deregulating everything....be careful what you wish for.
We don't have tuna out here, but prairie dog casserole is really tasty.
Meh Reminds me of an inmate who sued the state for starving him after he lost over 100lbs. Of course he weighed like 400lbs when he went in, so they aren't starving him, they aren't going to give him the calories to maintain that.
I can eat just about anything if I'm hungry enough. I think id rather eat that out of a bag or pouch like an MRE though so at least I didn't have to look at it. It does look like some vomit I've stepped over while loading out after some shows lol
I got a brothers in jail in different States. The one in Oklahoma got a job (yeah they can actually get jobs everything from the barber shop to call services he's been selling cable upgrades for time warner cable for a while) he buys sodas and chips from vending machines with the change they give him after taking most of it to pay for his food and electricity. If you're thinking why are taking so much tax money, you guessed it, private prisons are all about profits they make money off the tax others and inmates.
I don't mind the food stuff as much as why am I paying for people to watch TV all day. Some inmates have TVs in their cell. The inmates in NC prisons don't seem rehabilitated at all. They are in and out constantly.
I do like how some states like Oklahoma have minimum security prisons where inmates are allowed outside the walls and they maintain all the landscaping and everything, are allowed to play basketball and kickball watch tv and stuff but they either have to get a job or be taking classes towards their GED or degree all of which drastically lower the statistics of them returning to prison after being released. Those who get In trouble or fail to meet requirements get sent to "the Wall" which is Oklahomas pounding in the ass prison.
I can eat just about anything if I'm hungry enough. I think id rather eat that out of a bag or pouch like an MRE though so at least I didn't have to look at it. It does look like some vomit I've stepped over while loading out after some shows lol
I got a brothers in jail in different States. The one in Oklahoma got a job (yeah they can actually get jobs everything from the barber shop to call services he's been selling cable upgrades for time warner cable for a while) he buys sodas and chips from vending machines with the change they give him after taking most of it to pay for his food and electricity. If you're thinking why are taking so much tax money, you guessed it, private prisons are all about profits they make money off the tax others and inmates.
I don't mind the food stuff as much as why am I paying for people to watch TV all day. Some inmates have TVs in their cell. The inmates in NC prisons don't seem rehabilitated at all. They are in and out constantly.
I do like how some states like Oklahoma have minimum security prisons where inmates are allowed outside the walls and they maintain all the landscaping and everything, are allowed to play basketball and kickball watch tv and stuff but they either have to get a job or be taking classes towards their GED or degree all of which drastically lower the statistics of them returning to prison after being released. Those who get In trouble or fail to meet requirements get sent to "the Wall" which is Oklahomas pounding in the ass prison.
