Somewhat, but compare the results to the results of the Marshall Plan.
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Are we just getting too soft?
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this just in: a hugbox for cranky old people.
Let's see, young people are wusses, don't know how to work, are completely entitled. I'm pretty sure Socrates had something to say about young people too
Let's see, young people are wusses, don't know how to work, are completely entitled. I'm pretty sure Socrates had something to say about young people too
You ought to know...dismissing topics with the wave of a hand based on the "fact' of.....well....you don't believe it so it isn't true.
No, they have raised a generation of spoiled little kids that will grow up to be spoiled adults.
IME you can't generalize (the above of course describes a phenomenon but is a gross simplification and generalization, too), every generation has its slackers and its hard workers.
It does depress me more to see a generation grow up that is overweight and unused to physical activity.
There are better ways to treat prisoners than pure punishment and institutional cruelty and constant fear and the threat violence, especially since many are in jail for non violent or economic crimes.
People are not static fixed objects, they adapt and change in relation to the way they are treated and to their experiences.
Many countries spend a lot if money treating prisoners with some dignity, and avoid sentences when possible. The end result is less recidivism, less cost to the state, and less negative repercussions on society.
The death penalty is not a deterrent and it brutalizes the populations in the countries it is allowed in.
Of course there is a small percentage if the population that will not be helped or that will continue to reoffend, but pure repression as a model for all prisoners is horribly ineffective at reducing recidivism, crime, and it damages the health of a society.
Look where it has lead the US, highest rates of incarceration in the world. Are Americans really intrinsically more criminal or is something wrong with the system?
Childhood obesity rates have been decreasing in recent years, at least in the US.
He's right on the children thing, the high school students work very hard, but from my anecdotal understanding, a lot of the kids are wusses, and the colleges/universities - unless it's a good one - are generally practically daycares.
One time I was with my family at the beach, and a storm was coming, and I got scared, and I crapped my pants. Out of sheer fear and softness, I made a number two in my pants, but it was hard to notice with how much I was crying. Exactly who are you calling soft old man? I can Crap my pants faster than you can say "don't make me give you a Charlie horse wussy." Don't want none.
We do hear a lot of anecdotes but I'd be surprised if it is anywhere near as bad as made out to be.
Seeing as how just about every American generation fought in some war or another, I'd say no. We aren't softer. More rigid in our belief systems and more dogged in our allegiance to stupid political parties and PC statements, yes. I still contend that if the last couple of generations had social media where their youth could post every dumb thought that appeared in their heads, they would look and sound just like any other group of people today.
But it's more fun to think we're harder and tougher.
But it's more fun to think we're harder and tougher.
Just curious... How many grown adults do you come across on any given day who are crying? When this happens, do you generally ask them why they are crying? Can you honestly say that you have ever met a grown adult who was crying and stopped to see why and were told that the reason they were crying was because they missed their families, who they had seen only ten minutes before?
My sister has been a college professor for years and she is not at all prone to exaggeration, but the stories that she tells occasionally about her students has me worried about the future of humanity.
Well actually don't disagree as much as you think. When I mentioned "breaking rocks" I didn't mean that literally. What I want is that we should work prisoners in some way. For one thing we could benefit from them. For another they will feel better about themselves simply by accomplishing somethimg other than working on their hook shot for one hour a day.
But simply giving them three squares a day behind a fence is neither a deterrent nor a benefit to society. A other thing that would help is teaching SKILLS that would apply in the LOCAL economy. Teaching a prisoner in Alabama something that would fill a job opening in Michigan would be silly. Then you offer local businesses HUGE tax incentives to hire these nest skilled workers when they get out.
But sitting around watching cable TV all day would not happen. You WILL produce something and you WILL learn something. Or your experience would become less and less fun. Not violent. But not fun.
We make our military men who screw up in basic training scrub bathroom floors and toilets with toothbrushes. And for prisoners who hurt someone (physically or otherwise) a bad meal is lack of human respect? It doesn't add up.
I… I actually have no major disagreements. In fact, I think you may be on to something
In a nutshell, some of that would be great but it just isn't the way things are run in CIs and the way things are headed its just getting worse.
Most people in jail aren't there for violent crimes. The programs you mention would cost money and no one wants to increase the cost of "rehabilitation". There's a word for you. I have a friend who spent over a year in prison for being high and was recently released. There were no training opportunities. She was allowed to work in the kitchen. Then they released her, homeless (as her mom died while she was inside), with $60 in her pocket.
Then you have the privately-owned prisons for profit. We all know the slippery slope that may lead to.
When you say "cable" TV, is that really a bad thing? And you should drop the "cable" part. It's used just like "flat screen" is used to describe TVs these days when attempting to make it sound like a luxury. I'm pretty sure reception is horrible in a prison without cable, and TV would occupy someone's time and maybe even keep them from going completely berserk from boredom and kicking their cellie's @$$.
Your post starts so kindly with ways to help the incarcerated, then makes mention of how we "could benefit from them" (slavery?), then questions why they aren't doing hard labor (the soldier cleaning the toilet with a toothbrush thing).
Oh and, good morning.
