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attack attack!.. revolutionaries or confused hipsters?

attack attack!

  • revolutionaries!

    Votes: 22 8.8%
  • hacks!

    Votes: 141 56.4%
  • who? what? wheres lynryd skynyrd?

    Votes: 30 12.0%
  • carrots!

    Votes: 57 22.8%

  • Total voters
    250
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Crab-core!
Explanation from yourscenesucks.com

"For the most part, Crabcore is an offshoot of Christcore, with similar hairstyles, v-necks, tight pants and religious beliefs. It appears the only difference between the two (besides excessive vocoder usage, eurodance beats and unnecessary breakdowns every 30 seconds) is that followers of the crabcore persuasion will squat like a girl taking a piss in the woods during their power stances.

Much like the locomotion, macarena, watusi, cabbage patch, mashed potato, and even the urkel, the crabcore craze will be over sooner than it started. Ripped denim crotches everywhere are thankful."
 
I peronally hate bands like this, Especially A day to Remember.

There not mixing genres, there like making 3 different songs of 3 different genres and pasting different pieces of them together.
The result: Utter garbage.

Why cant anyone play good hardcore like,

Cursed
Ceremony
Pulling Teeth
Trash Talk
Blacklisted
Converge
:)
 
Bunch of crap. If your going to mix a bunch of metal with weird sounds and extreme vocals you need to do it right:


Heh heh heh...

+1

It's insulting to even compare them but sometimes it's gotta be done...

and


In the past year many things have happened to make me enjoy the fact that I am getting closer to my death; exposure to "creativity" such as this contibutes to this experience in a positive manner.


I'm dyin' here. Jeesus ... Bahahahahaha!
 
If you are looking for a popular band in the same vein that is ACTUALLY pushing the boundaries, look at Underoath. Sure they are a "scene" band and incredibly popular, but look at all the things in the genre that are popular, then look a year back and that was when Underoath was doing it.

lowsound
 
If you are looking for a popular band in the same vein that is ACTUALLY pushing the boundaries, look at Underoath. Sure they are a "scene" band and incredibly popular, but look at all the things in the genre that are popular, then look a year back and that was when Underoath was doing it.

lowsound

as much as i DONT like spencer's vocals, i cant deny that underoath has come a LONG way, and define the great line was a work of art. the next one.. not so much.

i tend to listen to oh, sleeper when im in an underoath mood because they do it a little more metal and a little better. its the perfect mix of thrice and underoath
 
+8,000,000

the first time I ever heard this "neo-hardcore" stuff, I fell on the floor laughing, in the middle of a crowded restaurant... tears and all... I laughed even harder when I found out it wasn't a joke... I think I hurt my cousins feelings, she somehow listens to this stuff...

I dobn't know, maybe I'm just too old for it... but growing up in NYC, this is what I knew as "hardcore":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YEO_qgre6M&feature=related

I suppose that was pretty silly too in hindsight... Meh.

+100. That's what I expected too...but oh well.
 
as much as i DONT like spencer's vocals, i cant deny that underoath has come a LONG way, and define the great line was a work of art. the next one.. not so much.

i tend to listen to oh, sleeper when im in an underoath mood because they do it a little more metal and a little better. its the perfect mix of thrice and underoath

I used to not like Spencer's vocals either, then a friend of mine told me that he thought that Spencer was the most versatile screamer out there. After I re-listened to their newest two, I tend to agree.

Oh Sleeper is amazing, but they don't push the envelope as much. Their newest album is one of my favorite of the past 5 years.

lowsound
 
I used to not like Spencer's vocals either, then a friend of mine told me that he thought that Spencer was the most versatile screamer out there. After I re-listened to their newest two, I tend to agree.

Oh Sleeper is amazing, but they don't push the envelope as much. Their newest album is one of my favorite of the past 5 years.

lowsound

spencer has good range, ill give him that. i just dont care for it in the context of that music. perhaps if he toned it down a bit.. more gruffy singing.. less throat noise.

aaron is what keeps underoath alive for me. their bassist is a hack. the keyboard guy is unnecessary and i feel like those guitarists could be replaced. unfortunately, aarons solo work is too poppy to be called "underoath without spencer". his voice, his off-kilter drumming.. its iconic. i cant make heads of tails of what he does half the time.

im finding a lot of bands with that thrice+underoath indie metalcore sound lately. look up a band called To Cherish. lighter than oh, sleeper, but pretty solid.

oh, sleeper isnt pushing because its already been pushed. thrice and underoath got spacey first, so everyone is following. unfortunately, i feel that the christian hardcore market is very limiting. ive watched it happen, and bands get trite and implode. maybe if they got off of solid state records.. who knows what they are capable of.. but right now it seems they are just sticking to the formula to get by. i like it.. but if they dont switch it up by the next album ill get bored.

its just like the second i tire of saosin (i never cared for circa), i am turned on to secret and whisper, which is canadian saosin with better songwriting.

i find my band touching on certain genre stereotypes and twisting them all around. theres a breakdown of sorts in nearly every song, but there is almost always an overlying melody and/or vocals. never just a mosh warrior section.

i also tire of the strange timing.. weird.. seemingly unrepeating dissonant verse riff. not since thrice's artist in the ambulance have i heard people use compound meter and do it with class. its really easy to work in 9/16 if your guitar parts are so nasty and in single beats.

the new it dies today record was an embarrassment. great.. your breakdown makes no sense. good for you. hope you can remember all 16 bars of it.

but thats the state of the hardcore/metalcore scene right now. le sigh