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AudioKinesis 112 Cab

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#261
KJung said:
Cover fits great, so these are ready to order from Larry at LeCover. Stock padded for the Thunderchild is $45. No LeCover logo is an extra $10, tie down velcro strap is an additional $10.

Edit: I forgot to specify the tie down strap on mine, but it is nice and snug... not really needed.
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Ken, I really appreciate your getting the covers sorted out; I was not looking forward to finding a supplier, going through the hassle, buying a bunch of covers, and then not making any money on them. But I can see that they are a valuable addition, and make the cab more practical than it was before. THANK YOU!
 
#263
JxBass said:
Ken, any chance of providing your cover measurements if some of us wind up with another cover manufacturer?
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You know, I sent Larry the measurements, and a picture, and we spent a few minutes discussing the front grill that sticks out a bit, and the rather unusual handle design. I'm sure he tweaked my raw measurements here and there, so I'm uncomfortable just posting my rough measurements (which of course, I've thrown away already).

It is pretty easy to measure this cab up, but you would need to discuss the cab with the cover manufacturer a bit, since it is just a smidge different than the typical box regarding the format.

Hard to beat Larry's product though... that would be the simple route!
 
#264
KJung said:
You know, I sent Larry the measurements, and a picture, and we spent a few minutes discussing the front grill that sticks out a bit, and the rather unusual handle design. I'm sure he tweaked my raw measurements here and there, so I'm uncomfortable just posting my rough measurements (which of course, I've thrown away already).

It is pretty easy to measure this cab up, but you would need to discuss the cab with the cover manufacturer a bit, since it is just a smidge different than the typical box regarding the format.

Hard to beat Larry's product though... that would be the simple route!
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Fair enough. Thanks Ken!
 
#265
Looks like some more of these cabs are close to shipping, so it will be good to get some new input into this cab!

I had a few requests from my TBer buddies concerning tone comparison with my very nice AE212, and also investigating the impact of the mid controls of the F500 with the Thunderchild. That's getting a bit subtle for the capability of my little recorder and Youtube, but I enjoy doing the clips, so what the heck. Look for the clip later today.

I thought I'd take a quick picture, since IMO the AE212 and the Thunderchild are both just beautiful looking cabs. Here they are!

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#266
I hope to get one of those to play with again at some point.
I had fun with the pre-production unit.

I think it's got to be a lil ole killin' machine!

The Berg interests me too.
The AE410 and I didn't play well together, but the things about that which were fail points for me seem to be addressed in the 212.
 
#268
OK, again based on a couple of specific requests, here is one more clip of the AE212 and Thunderchild. I'll leave this up for a few days until they've had a chance to see it.

One thing I guess I should mention about all of these clips. I record them at LOUD volumes in the room... gig level volumes. I feel this is the best representation of what a cab actually sounds like. Due to the autolimiter in my little recorder, my talk over is always a bit low volume due to how loud the cabs are, but I feel that is a small price to pay to really hear what these cabs sound like when, if not pushed to their limits by any means, at least cranked up to 'typical' moderate gig volume (and by some definitions, loud gig volume).

Notice how much brighter the AE212 is up top, but that I can make both cabs sound (IMO) quite similar by either pumping up 800hz with the Thunderchild, or cutting at 2K or so with the AE212. The F500 with those dual semi-parametric EQ bands is very nice. The EQ on the MB heads is designed in the classic 'EQ sense'... designed to be powerful but subtle... not really meant to 'make the head sound different than its inherent tone, but rather to 'equalize' that nice even tone across different cabs and rooms. I love it.

blah, blah, blah... here you go:D (And a nice picture of these two cabs together a few posts prior to this one).

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Edit: FYI, tweeter is at noon on the AE212 and 'flat' on the Thunderchild (i.e., not rolled off). Interestingly, most of that brightness in the AE212 is coming from the top of the drivers, not the little tweeter, so dialing the tweeter down has only a minimal impact... obviously less upper treble, but the upper mid/lower treble 'brightness' remains.
 
#270
Chef said:
did you have blend centered there?

man, i like both those!

and:
yeah, that bass has a lot to do with why I'm an MV5 owner.
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Yes... preamp with just a touch (10%) of bass boost, and blend centered. I do have a bit of 'burp' built into my technique, since I typically play pretty close to the bridge (except when the tune calls for a bit more low end and smooth tone).

The single coils (as you know) also have a lot to do with the mid present punch and that bit of lower treble grind that is always preset (although I can dial most of that out with a slight engagement of the passive tone control). Also, the F500/F1 has a bit to do with it, since it is tight and a bit bright but not clanky or harsh up top like some heads... kind of a perfect 'burp machine' for me!

Thanks! I LOVE this bass. That tone is probably a little much for some (many:p) on TB, but in a mix, man, you can actually hear both the note 'centers', and that grind that my buddy Mikebass calls 'hearing the windings on the E and B string'.
 
#271
Yessir, what I heard there is just really dang close to "my personal thing."
I'd probably have the treble boosted a bit more...which might sound "too dang much at home," but room ambience, crowd noise, and the rest of the band piling on even that right back out.
Beautiful!

thanks for the post-up!

Also, interesting to see the Berg and Thunderchild nect to each other, cause Duke's cab is just teeny, and the Berg is kinda big-ish...
 
#272
Chef said:
Yessir, what I heard there is just really dang close to "my personal thing."
I'd probably have the treble boosted a bit more...which might sound "too dang much at home," but room ambience, crowd noise, and the rest of the band piling on even that right back out.
Beautiful!
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Thanks again. +1 As many of us old timers have learned through the years, it is simply amazing how much mid and upper mid presence (and absolute top end, depending on your tone goals) you have to dial in to result in an even, articulate sound in a mix and out in the room (if you don't have PA support... and even if you do have PA support). It can sound a bit 'much' at home, but as you point out, once the room starts soaking up those upper frequencies, and all that other junk (drums, guitars) start pounding, it just sits where it should.

I've moved a bit back from my old 'sizzle days' with my MTD, but still like a nice lower treble grind on top of my tone, and a lot of low mid burp (which I mainly develop with my technique) for the gigs that I typically do.
 
#273
KJung said:
OK, again based on a couple of specific requests, here is one more clip of the AE212 and Thunderchild. I'll leave this up for a few days until they've had a chance to see it.

One thing I guess I should mention about all of these clips. I record them at LOUD volumes in the room... gig level volumes. I feel this is the best representation of what a cab actually sounds like. Due to the autolimiter in my little recorder, my talk over is always a bit low volume due to how loud the cabs are, but I feel that is a small price to pay to really hear what these cabs sound like when, if not pushed to their limits by any means, at least cranked up to 'typical' moderate gig volume (and by some definitions, loud gig volume).

Notice how much brighter the AE212 is up top, but that I can make both cabs sound (IMO) quite similar by either pumping up 800hz with the Thunderchild, or cutting at 2K or so with the AE212. The F500 with those dual semi-parametric EQ bands is very nice. The EQ on the MB heads is designed in the classic 'EQ sense'... designed to be powerful but subtle... not really meant to 'make the head sound different than its inherent tone, but rather to 'equalize' that nice even tone across different cabs and rooms. I love it.

blah, blah, blah... here you go:D (And a nice picture of these two cabs together a few posts prior to this one).

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Edit: FYI, tweeter is at noon on the AE212 and 'flat' on the Thunderchild (i.e., not rolled off). Interestingly, most of that brightness in the AE212 is coming from the top of the drivers, not the little tweeter, so dialing the tweeter down has only a minimal impact... obviously less upper treble, but the upper mid/lower treble 'brightness' remains.
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Cissy Strut! :D

Very cool, Ken. That cab is a magical box, for sure.
 
#274
KJung said:
OK, again based on a couple of specific requests, here is one more clip of the AE212 and Thunderchild. I'll leave this up for a few days until they've had a chance to see it.

One thing I guess I should mention about all of these clips. I record them at LOUD volumes in the room... gig level volumes. I feel this is the best representation of what a cab actually sounds like. Due to the autolimiter in my little recorder, my talk over is always a bit low volume due to how loud the cabs are, but I feel that is a small price to pay to really hear what these cabs sound like when, if not pushed to their limits by any means, at least cranked up to 'typical' moderate gig volume (and by some definitions, loud gig volume).

Notice how much brighter the AE212 is up top, but that I can make both cabs sound (IMO) quite similar by either pumping up 800hz with the Thunderchild, or cutting at 2K or so with the AE212. The F500 with those dual semi-parametric EQ bands is very nice. The EQ on the MB heads is designed in the classic 'EQ sense'... designed to be powerful but subtle... not really meant to 'make the head sound different than its inherent tone, but rather to 'equalize' that nice even tone across different cabs and rooms. I love it.

blah, blah, blah... here you go:D (And a nice picture of these two cabs together a few posts prior to this one).

[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

Edit: FYI, tweeter is at noon on the AE212 and 'flat' on the Thunderchild (i.e., not rolled off). Interestingly, most of that brightness in the AE212 is coming from the top of the drivers, not the little tweeter, so dialing the tweeter down has only a minimal impact... obviously less upper treble, but the upper mid/lower treble 'brightness' remains.
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Thanks, Ken -- a couple of really nice-sounding cabs!
I think I like the tone of the Thunderchild just a bit better -- seems tighter overall and somewhat chunkier in the low mids.
The AE212 does sound bigger, though (wonder why??? :rolleyes: ).
 
#275
KJung said:
Cover fits great, so these are ready to order from Larry at LeCover. Stock padded for the Thunderchild is $45. No LeCover logo is an extra $10, tie down velcro strap is an additional $10.

Edit: I forgot to specify the tie down strap on mine, but it is nice and snug... not really needed.

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I happened to find this if you need something heavier duty http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Meinl-Deluxe-Cajon-Bag?sku=445823

You can throw this over your shoulder and go.
 
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