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AudioKinesis 112 Cab

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#283
KJung said:
Looks like the right size. However, at 34 pounds, I don't think this would work as well as the padded cover and using the handle on top of the cab. Cool though!
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The price you pay (besides the extra $) is more bulk and a few more seconds getting it in and out of the bag.

For those who want to really get maximum protection for the cab's finish, it might be worth it.
 
#284
foderaman said:
KJung didn.t you say some where that the Audio Kinesis is coming out with a 212 cab?I think I like the tone of the AK over the Berg AE212 also!
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+1 JimmyM has the scoop on that... I have no information at all regarding what the 212 will be.

Just FYI again that the Thunderchild (as you can hear) is a bit more smooth and even and not as goosed in the upper mids and upper treble and a bit fatter and more chewy in the low mids than the AE212. You can get the AE212 to sound very similar by cutting a slight amount of upper treble (with my F500.. cutting the active 10K shelving control to 11 o'clock), cutting the upper mids just a touch at 2K or so, and then slightly boosting the low mids around 200 hz.

Likewise, you can kind of make the Thunderchild sound a bit like the AE212 by kind of doing the opposite, with the upper mids set just a touch lower (boosting 800k).

I think the biggest surprise to me was the smooth, organic top end of the Thunder Child. While it 'takes EQ well' and you can get it to really sizzle if you want it to (unlike the 12/6's without the tweeter), the interent tone is not really much like the traditional top end of a tweetered cab, nor or the upper mids anything like what I'm used to with most neo loaded cabs.. that kind of 1K spike up there that grinds a bit. I assume that is Duke's crossover at work. It sounds great, although might be a bit 'polite' for some (if you really want bright and sizzly wizzly.. that's not really what this cab is about IMO and IME.
 
#285
KJung said:
I think the biggest surprise to me was the smooth, organic top end of the Thunder Child. While it 'takes EQ well' and you can get it to really sizzle if you want it to (unlike the 12/6's without the tweeter), the interent tone is not really much like the traditional top end of a tweetered cab, nor or the upper mids anything like what I'm used to with most neo loaded cabs.. that kind of 1K spike up there that grinds a bit. I assume that is Duke's crossover at work. It sounds great, although might be a bit 'polite' for some (if you really want bright and sizzly wizzly.. that's not really what this cab is about IMO and IME.
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I just got off the road and unpacked my Thunderchild and plugged it up to my Tecamp Puma 1000. I tried out a few bass guitars and yes, it really thumps, but like Ken said the beauty is in the top end where the individual voicing of an instrument lives. It really is a punchy studio monitor. I'm going to try it a band rehearsal tonight and see how it sounds cranked.

The real surprise was when I plugged my upright into it. WOW!!:eek: I couldn't believe I was playing the same instrument. I've never heard my upright with such clarity and detail. No other cab I've played through could reproduce that 'sound of wood' tone. This cab is a game changer for any upright player IMO. The size and weight are a no-brainer, but the detail and voicing of this cab is going to send a lot of other bass cabs to the classifieds. Including mine!
 
#286
hensonbass said:
I just got off the road and unpacked my Thunderchild and plugged it up to my Tecamp Puma 1000. I tried out a few bass guitars and yes, it really thumps, but like Ken said the beauty is in the top end where the individual voicing of an instrument lives. It really is a punchy studio monitor. I'm going to try it a band rehearsal tonight and see how it sounds cranked.

The real surprise was when I plugged my upright into it. WOW!!:eek: I couldn't believe I was playing the same instrument. I've never heard my upright with such clarity and detail. No other cab I've played through could reproduce that 'sound of wood' tone. This cab is a game changer for any upright player IMO. The size and weight are a no-brainer, but the detail and voicing of this cab is going to send a lot of other bass cabs to the classifieds. Including mine!
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Cool! It will be fun to get some more feedback on these. Great news on the DB also. It is a fantastic little cab, and I'm digging it more by the hour.
 
#290
hensonbass said:
I bet you're going to love it! I brought home my Azola EUB to try out as well.
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I played my BSX electric upright through the prototype quite a bit -- it was what convinced me to order one of Duke's cabs. The cello should be great through it too, I'd think. But acoustic upright was absolutely the first thing I thought of when I heard the cab.
 
#292
KJung said:
And with your Puma1000, you still have the other half of the amp to drive a second one if you need to knock a wall down!:bassist:
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I think as much uumpph as this cab has I doubt I'll need it. :D

I actually may get a Pleasure pad for the other side of the Puma. Live on my touring gig I use a butt kicker attached to a platform that has my bass and kick drum signal run through it which then leaves my in-ears mix a lot clearer.

I think this is the type of cab I might elevate live. My legs don't seem to appreciate the subtle sonic details. :smug:
 
#293
hensonbass said:
I think as much uumpph as this cab has I doubt I'll need it. :D

I actually may get a Pleasure pad for the other side of the Puma. Live on my touring gig I use a butt kicker attached to a platform that has my bass and kick drum signal run through it which then leaves my in-ears mix a lot clearer.

I think this is the type of cab I might elevate live. My legs don't seem to appreciate the subtle sonic details. :smug:
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That would be very cool. My understanding (I think Bowlus posted this a while back after he interviewed the TecAmp guys) is that the 'bass boost' control on one of the channels of the 1000 was specifically meant for their Pleasure Pad... to 'feel' rather than to hear in a large touring sort of situation. Cool!
 
#294
KJung said:
That would be very cool. My understanding (I think Bowlus posted this a while back after he interviewed the TecAmp guys) is that the 'bass boost' control on one of the channels of the 1000 was specifically meant for their Pleasure Pad... to 'feel' rather than to hear in a large touring sort of situation. Cool!
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Yes, the Channel B "Sub" switch kicks in a low-pass filter (set at 200Hz) as well as a +12dB boost! :eek: And yes, it was expressly designed to drive the Pleasure Pad (which really works great, btw, if such a product would fit your needs).
 
#296
Back to AK, couple of (stupid, that's me;)) questions:

First are these cabs derivative of the fEarful technology? Sorry, but I am interested, but unwilling to prowl through hundreds of pages of posts to see where this came from. Thanks for your patience.

Second, couldn't find a price on the web site. How much are these?

Ken, on the same page with your efforts to identify tone with better portability, and this seems right in the wheelhouse. Any speculation on how much of a gig two of these would cover? Thx!
 
#297
bucephylus said:
First are these cabs derivative of the fEarful technology?
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It's the based on the same monster 12" driver, but a 4 Ohm instead of the standard 8 and with slightly different T/S specs. It also takes a completely different approach to the mids and highs. Instead of a 6" driver, this cab has a large PA style horn which is capable of going lower than most horns and can therefore cover the midrange as well. As such it needs a higher spec crossover and Duke has put a fair bit of effort into getting that right.
 
#298
bucephylus said:
First are these cabs derivative of the fEarful technology?
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They're not father and son, more like cousins. Both were spawned using acoustical engineering principles long known, and employed, by the hi-fi and PA segments of the loudspeaker industry, but unfortunately almost universally ignored by the electric bass cab industry. That situation may start changing thanks to the efforts of people like Duke and Greenboy.
 
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bucephylus said:
Back to AK, couple of (stupid, that's me;)) questions:

First are these cabs derivative of the fEarful technology? Sorry, but I am interested, but unwilling to prowl through hundreds of pages of posts to see where this came from. Thanks for your patience.

Second, couldn't find a price on the web site. How much are these?

Ken, on the same page with your efforts to identify tone with better portability, and this seems right in the wheelhouse. Any speculation on how much of a gig two of these would cover? Thx!
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+1 on Petebass's post..

Two of these would require a 'dual mono amp' or an amp that is safe at 2ohms. It would be quite a bit wump IMO, but you need that 500 watts per cab or so IMO and IME. That smooth, relatively flat response without that hi bass hump means these cabs sound quite a bit softer at the same 'level of the master knob' as a more typical cab, but if you turn them up and crank some watts into them, they will take it, and you will get a surprising amount of low end out of this little cab.

That being said, the Thunder Child really is designed as a 'one cab' solution for those needed full low end, more volume than a typical 112 or typical 210, and who have size and weight as a key purchase driver, and who use a typical mono micro head that puts out 300-600 watts at 4ohms.

IMO and somewhat limited IME at this point.. only received it a week or so ago.

K
 
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