Australia - world's filthiest country

[theNoseBleedKid]

That's why we added per capita, as in the average Australian destroys more of the planet than the average American.

I agree no coal, but as if not solar energy, we have like infi desert we can use, probs be more efficent without the political nonsense of nucleur BS as well.

 

[mlowe]

That's why we added per capita, as in the average Australian destroys more of the planet than the average American.

I agree no coal, but as if not solar energy, we have like infi desert we can use, probs be more efficent without the political nonsense of nucleur BS as well.

That would be a cool thing to see. We have a sun that produces a crap load of energy. We get in the form of light, but also wind and tide from the moon.

The issue is harnessing. Also the o2 that solar panel manufacture creates has about a 4 year return. This is the one things that the greenies miss. Their intentions are good but solar does not, can not solve this one. So it would take 4 years of use before you make up for the o2 of existing power production.

One way of producing power that seems to be not looked at enough I think is water turbines. We have huge tides through ports in many cities that creates huge water currents that could turn power production generators instead of coal and no measurable pollutant. Maybe $ viability issue as to why not.

With the exception of the waste nuclear is as the researchers here say is the only way we can produce enough energy to meet existing requirements and also factor growth.

One big step imo is not about producing more but rather spending less energy. Computers alone is a huge start.
We need to start using smarter electronics that either turns things off more or uses less current to do the same. I don't think the computer industry alone should be the only ones doing this.

Make all amplifiers digital class D as a policy. The "audiophile" BS comes at a huge cost of power for these toss factor class A amps that chew 600w to produce 50w of audio power.

There's heaps that can be done, people just need to understand the things that will count and the things that are not going to count.

 

[Marlat]

Latimour, I'm starting to wonder if you really ever did live here. Much of what you say is typically inaccurate. If you don't like Australia why don't you just say so instead of giving people on here misleading information. If you lived here 12 years you should know better.

The weather here has been EXACTLY like that all week and much of the last months. Yes I spend most of my working day in the city and around. The sky is clear blue most of the time. If it's grey, they are a what most people know as clouds. Every time i've been to Sydney, Adelaide and Brisbane it's the same. We have water shortages, lack of rain but Melbourne is never sunny. Go figure.

My point is Aus is a relatively very clean place. Not that Melbourne has perfect weather. But as usually you make all efforts to sidetrack the point and slag off Aus in what ever way possible.

Maybe read up on the difference between weather with pollution.

I've spent a lot of time in every capital city of Australia with exception of Perth and the Darwin and not one single city is anything like what is made out here. Not one. I'm sure given what people say, Pert and NT is also very clear of air pollution in comparison to other cities. I suppose the gold coast and surfers paradise are average also.

The only "special photos" I've seen that depict Melbourne with a smog sky is when there are bush fires.

My comments on LA is not a dig at people there. When I first flew into LA it was a big shock to see so much air pollution. It is what it is. I don't dislike LA, just the air. The price of big population.

Quite apart from the fact that I was joking - I guess you missed the smilie - you would of course know that Melbourne is one of the few almost unique cities in the world, like LA, that because of its geography, can cause a temperature inversion and trap the smog at a low level causing a brown grey haze that hangs aruond the city. Its a fairly common sight, certainly when I lived there, to see the city enveloped ina brown haze because the teperature at ground level is cooler than higher in the sky (which is uncommon) and thus smog is trapped.

Anyway, just because someone makes a joke about Melbourne's weather - which is famously bad in Australia - does not mean someone is insulting Australia. Chill out - Don't get your panties in a bunch - it just an internet forum

 

[ROON]

Hey roon, you know there's always syd vs melb but imo i like both for different reasons. Living in double bay would hardly suck and that's why many very wealthy people from all over the world CHOOSE to buy there. In general i like sydney and i've never witnessed air pollution there either.

I guess that's why byron bay, coogee and bondi are all dirty dirty places that attract millions of tourists a year just for the beaches alone.

Sydney and Melbourne are world famous for being smog capitals.


mmm yeh.


PS. Did it take you a long time to find that doctored photo like me. I just couldn't find one without smog anywhere? psst.

Wasn't taking a stab at Melbourne my good friend. I don't hate on any cities in Australia... well... with the exception of Canberra. Melbourne is a beautiful place, as is Sydney. I think I'm going to have to move out of Sydney or NSW when I grow up anyway. Rent and home owning costs are insane up here! Not to say they aren't everywhere... but still.

 

[mlowe]

Hey roon, I spotted your humor but mr latimour your just stick it to Australia constantly which over time makes me wonder if you have some kind of personal resentment to this place.

I understand LA is in a thermal trap as many cities are and that ocean coasts can effect wind dragging the pollution away.

My point is the cities here are not filthy or dirty and the article to many would mislead. Melbourne weather isn't bad, it's just varied. Do we release o2, well yeah.

As for it's just an internet forum, that seems to be the standard answer these days to oops i'm talking crap.

 

[theNoseBleedKid]

Oh man Canberra and Sydney sucked majorly, like really REALLY badly. I can't tell you exactly what was wrong with Sydney but I didn't like the train system $11.50 for 3 stops and the ticket I could only use once, ***????

Canberra, as we all know, is just ****ing BORING.

 

[mlowe]

Canberra is the capitol of boring, the one place where everything that illegal anywhere else is legal. Well who know why?

 

[ROON]

I've always noticed how Mark is very keen to contribute to any Australia related topic, and makes it very clear that he has lived here for quite a long time, but then posts his views on Australia which are quite false and most of the time negative.

I really don't get it.

 

[Marlat]

Hey roon, I spotted your humor but mr latimour your just stick it to Australia constantly which over time makes me wonder if you have some kind of personal resentment to this place.

I understand LA is in a thermal trap as many cities are and that ocean coasts can effect wind dragging the pollution away.

My point is the cities here are not filthy or dirty and the article to many would mislead. Melbourne weather isn't bad, it's just varied. Do we release o2, well yeah.

As for it's just an internet forum, that seems to be the standard answer these days to oops i'm talking crap.

Speaking of talking crap.....

When have I "constantly" stuck it to Australia? My comments in this thread about Melbourne weather - which is reknowned in Australia for being bad - were much less offensive than your "Canberra is the capitol of boring", but I guess you must be pretty content looking like a whinging hypocrite on the internet? Haha - don't worry - its just the internet!

 

[mlowe]

I agree Roon. I don't have an issue with Mark or respecting others opinions but when the statements are so far from the truth on an international forum it's not good practice imo.

The photo I posted sure is your typical tourism photo. Why? because it came up on google images and was close to how the view is here by eye.

The weather here and the lack of pollution fits that picture accurately as does the one of Sydney. Sure you will get your views that don't look as clean as that but overall the major cities here are pretty clean.

What ticks me off is that the article comes from a country that has some very serious human rights and support issues to attend to before slagging off others with twisted and inaccurate statements.

 

[Marlat]

Having lived in Melbourne for 12 years, I can safely say that that photo was taken on the 1 day they have like that per year! Haha - its my favourite city in Australia by a long shot, but it NEVER looks like that!

I also agree with this though. Since when is Melb sunny?

I've always noticed how Mark is very keen to contribute to any Australia related topic, and makes it very clear that he has lived here for quite a long time, but then posts his views on Australia which are quite false and most of the time negative.

I really don't get it.

Roon - you seemed to "get it" when you agreed with me earlier in this thread.

Wow why don't you two continue your little imaginary love fest in PMs. This is just hillarious to watch. To the extent I have said anything negative about Australia, and I don't think I have generally done so, you two are creating a much worse impression by the idiocracy that you are displaying in this thread. Lift your game boys. Seriously - its childish.

 

[mlowe]

Mark, Mark Mark,

Weather in Melbourne isn't renown for being bad. It is renown for changing in short periods of time.

There is a difference.



As for Canberra, I find it boring. And yes certain things are legal there that are illegal anywhere else. Not an opinion, fact.

 

[mlowe]

Originally Posted by ROON View Post
I've always noticed how Mark is very keen to contribute to any Australia related topic, and makes it very clear that he has lived here for quite a long time, but then posts his views on Australia which are quite false and most of the time negative.

I really don't get it.


I notice this also. That's why I raised the point.

 

[Marlat]

Mark, Mark Mark,

Weather in Melbourne isn't renown for being bad. It is renown for changing in short periods of time.

There is a difference.

When I lived in Sydney and Brisbane and Perth, Melbourne weather was constantly referred to as bad. YMMV.

As for Canberra, I find it boring. And yes certain things are legal there that are illegal anywhere else. Not an opinion, fact.

Please read what I wrote. I know you like making stuff up rolleyes but you will note I only said that your comment that "Canberra was boring" was more offensive than me making a joke (you seemed to ahve missed the "haha" in the post and smilies (and that your buddy Roon agreed with my post)) about Melbourne's weather. I thought Australians were supposed to be easy going. You really seem to be wound up pretty tight. Overreact much?

You're really selling Melbourne as the place to live by your posts in this thread. Who wouldn't want to go to a place where the inhabitants chuck a hissy fit when someone makes an obvious joke about the weather...good job...seriously!

 

[mlowe]

I'm not selling Melbourne at all. I just dislike slander that isn't accurate. I believe your comment about Melbourne never looking as it does in the photo was clearly very wrong.

There is many cities I can think of that is similar or better than Melbourne in many aspects.

I've said my bit, we are now repeating.


And no, I'm not trying to upset you or annoy you. I just find your comments misleading at times.

 

[Marlat]

I'm not selling Melbourne at all. I just dislike slander that isn't accurate.

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And no, I'm not trying to upset you or annoy you. I just find your comments misleading at times.

And yet you have no trouble "slandering" me or, for that matter, the fine city of Canberra. I am sure you can appreciate the irony of your comment. Please refer to my "whinging hyporcrite" comment earlier. It seems, perhaps, more accurate now than when I said it then.

 

[theNoseBleedKid]

But Melbourne's weather is terrible in any season but winter, which is not long enough, so he isn't slandering our city, just reciting popular opinion.

Keep it real fellas, it's only a bloody city!

 

[Alistair R]

What the world needs is Nuclear Fusion reactors. Harnessing the same reactions that occur in the sun to give off MASSIVE amounts of energy, trouble is, the temperature need to start the darn reaction is mmmmmmasssive...Hopefully Fusion power becomes more viable in years to come.

As for cleanliness, Australia would have to be one of the cleanest countries in the world. I've been to a few countries in Europe (yes it's not the whole world) but boy were they dirty compared to Australia! Out of all the capital cities in Aus, I reckon Perth would have to be the cleanest! IMO..

 

[Marlat]

But Melbourne's weather is terrible in any season but winter, which is not long enough, so he isn't slandering our city, just reciting popular opinion.

Keep it real fellas, it's only a bloody city!

Don't let mlowe see your post! He might get all upset.

Seriously - Melbourne is by far the best city in Australia. It's where I would move back to if I ever go back to Australia. Sure, some of the "residents" there can't take a joke and the weather is about as poor as London's - but its still an awesome place to live!

 

[mlowe]

And yet you have no trouble "slandering" me or, for that matter, the fine city of Canberra. I am sure you can appreciate the irony of your comment. Please refer to my "whinging hyporcrite" comment earlier. It seems, perhaps, more accurate now than when I said it then.

I do find Canberra boring.

There is law preventing us from doing what may be done in Canberra.

Which part don't you understand Marky Mark?