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Avatar 3 way 15/6/tweet

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Though I'm hell-bent on building a fEARful, the price point/performance of this cab is hard to beat. From what I have gleaned from the hundreds of threads I've amassed knowledge from, it's got a great deal of the fEARful's perfomance (not an equal, obviously) and sound "type" for half the money...and yeah, it's already built. I'm not a woodworking n00b, so that's not what's putting me off. I know how to solder pretty well too. It's the time and the money involved. Neither of which I have much of lately.

I have an Avatar B212 and think it's very good for the money. But hearing clips day after day of fEARfuls and even other midrange-driver-equipped cabs has made me realize what's missing in my B212. And I know the TB153 has it. But then again, why settle for second best? Oh yeah...time. I still dont' know what I'm going to do. I have another 3 months to stew on it; come May timeframe I'll have access to all my tools again. It may be "game on, baby!" come then.
 
I've read quite a few posts about folks pairing a B210 with a B212 with fantastic (and LOUD) results. A 210/212 each on it's own 500W channel of my GX5 poweramp...oohhhh, nasty stuff. :cool:

I run my two 210 Neo Avatars as a vertical stacked 410 powered by a GK MB2-500 head.
"LOUD" and great sounding, very easy to lug around, and the whole rig didn't cost a small fortune.
Love those 210 cabs, but I'm intrigued by this new Avatar cabinet.
 
shoot-r said:
+1!!!
I've got two Avatar 210 Neo cabs...
Love em'...
Awhile back I had a Avatar 115H cab, (the small cabinet, front ported one), wish I'd have hung onto it also!

I have the discontinued 115h in both large and small versions, a 210 and a 112. The small 115 and 112 are my main rig now.

lomo said:
Not to dis other Avatar cabs, but this cab is in another tonal universe IMO.

That's not helping me!! : )
 
If you're not interested in going the route of building yourself, don't have the time or confidence for the project, I would think the TB153 would be THE option. Is it a fEarful? No, but for what your spending in money and saving in time and effort you're winning.

And yes, its different from the other Avatar cab range is some fundamental ways, assuming that YOU WANT what it brings to the table. That of course is up to the player at hand. :) To bring it down to earth again, this design is great and does what people are saying BUT it's not MAGIC. Its a bass cab and does have limits. All cabs, all speakers, all crossovers, all amps have limits. This is true whether its a TB153 or a fEarful 15/6/1 or any other variant.

And I know that while I love mine (in a cold-dead-hands kind of way), there have been some who found this cab wasn't for them.
 
Kinda underwhelming, but about what I expected. Stupid tweeter placement/spacing. Closed baskets that small have never sounded all that great. Handle placement looks bad. Port could be at least a 1/4" taller, 1/2" better yet. Who knows how bad the crossover is.

"The TB153 is a fantastic stand alone cab or it will go great with any of our other cabs stacked on top."

Which pretty much messes up the 15/6 concept. So the box would be better off as a standalone. Another commodity item. $500 though. Probably kicks some other $500 boxes azzes.

Ho hum.
I've always thought that tweeter placement should at least be symetrical, so if there are diffraction issues going on with the front of the cab at least they will be uniformly crappy.
Well, and the tweeter is behind the logo? Kind of silly.
I'd rather just not have a tweet and let the midrange roll of normally.
I agree that the handle is a bit highly placed and the port could prolly be taller.
 
That's good to hear, because I had an Avatar 410 for a while that I hated.

Yeah-I get the "not everybody is looking for what this cab delivers" idea, but if you are looking for deep, articulate lows and smooth, clear, mids, IMO the fEarful and nEarful 3-way concept with the goosed woofer is a readily audible, significant improvement over traditional 410 and similar boxes. My LDS 15/6 nEarful had killed my cab GAS, and the only reason I jumped on the TB153 was because it (unlike the LDS) could be had in 4 Ohms and will milk a tad more volume out of my relatively modestly powered Walkabout, and because it was so attractively priced. I cannot envision using a conventional cab to play out again. YMMV, especially if you like grit in your tone to partly come rom a woofer trying to reproduce mid freq that it does not excel at. I'd rather get my grit from my amp or a pedal when/if I want it.
 
I'm thinking about taking the plunge on one of these. My current amp, which I'll likely hold on to for quite a while is a Markbass LMII.

From what I've read it seems like 500 watts could really make one of these cabs sing. At 4 Ohms the LMII could deliver the goods.

Any opinions on 4 vs 8 Ohms (and thus 300 vs 500 watts into a TB153)?
 
ia02 said:
I'm thinking about taking the plunge on one of these. My current amp, which I'll likely hold on to for quite a while is a Markbass LMII.

From what I've read it seems like 500 watts could really make one of these cabs sing. At 4 Ohms the LMII could deliver the goods.

Any opinions on 4 vs 8 Ohms (and thus 300 vs 500 watts into a TB153)?

I am running a LMIII into a 4ohm 153 - I feel it is a good match watts wise. Besides when you hear this thing and realize you won't need an additional cab, IMO, why not get all the power out of your LM.
 
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