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Azola EUBs Megathread

Discussion in 'Electric Upright Basses (EUB's) [DB]' started by basss, Dec 3, 2004.


  1. speyer

    speyer Supporting Member

    Oct 14, 2006
    Bowen Island, CANADA
    I did some recording last night and it really does sound Fantastic. I might consider some thumper strings (might try those other ones you sent me) because I'm finding the G string a bit too thin sounding. It could be improved with raising the action... but the E and A are pretty nice where they are and I will likely have to trim a bridge foot and tilt the neck. OR I could just carve new a new bridge for it. I read somewhere a post by Francois where he's indicated an improvement in tone (Bass-max) with the use of a real DB bridge w/ feet cut down. I'll try new strings first and see how it goes.

    One more thing... I'm getting a loud rattle/buzz from the headstock on the open G. I tightened all the screws etc but I sounds like it's coming right from the tuner on the G. Any suggestions? I'm hoping it will resolve itself after I re-string it.
     
  2. 59jazz

    59jazz Infinite Rider on the Big Dogma Supporting Member

    I think I have the action set at 6-7 mm between the strings and the FB, at the end of the FB. I'd recommend lowering the neck angle. To do so loosen the tension on the strings and turn the neck shim screw 1/8 turn counter clockwise. I'm not sure if trimming the bridge is a great idea. As for your buzz noise.... There are allen head set screws at the base of each tuner. They will loosen up on occasion..... That is considered normal. You might want to keep an allen wrench in your gig bag for such occurrences. Let me know if the buzz still remains.
     
  3. :)
    Here's the result on my Carruthers.
    EUB_004.
     
  4. speyer

    speyer Supporting Member

    Oct 14, 2006
    Bowen Island, CANADA
    Nice Francois!

    Yeah I snugged up all the socket heads as well with no change. It's a minor issue I've got problem dealing with... Just need to seek out the source of the vibration.

    Thanks for the tips steve! So impressed with the feel of this bass. I feel right at home. :thumbsup:
     
  5. dylanjohnson

    dylanjohnson Supporting Member

    Jul 9, 2002
    Morro Bay, CA
    The pickup in the TC video is the same as on my Bugbass. I think toward the end Steve was using some kind of proprietary pickup which was built inside the bridge. I wonder if anyone else knows about this. It sounds great. Way better than the Bassmax, in my opinion.
     
  6. speyer

    speyer Supporting Member

    Oct 14, 2006
    Bowen Island, CANADA

    I'd like to know more about this! can you post a pic of yours? I'm all for upgrading mine wherever possible.
     
  7. dylanjohnson

    dylanjohnson Supporting Member

    Jul 9, 2002
    Morro Bay, CA
  8. ctxbass

    ctxbass Supporting Member

    Nov 6, 2003
    Central Texas
    My Azola Acoustic Baby Bass has a Bass Max and the built in bridge pickup as well, with individual volume controls. I would also be interested in any info about the
    built in bridge pickup.
     
  9. dylanjohnson

    dylanjohnson Supporting Member

    Jul 9, 2002
    Morro Bay, CA
    I can also assume that this pickup has been discussed earlier in the thread if you search for it.
     
  10. image. I just got installed a new aluminum brigde on my Azola baby bass. it sounds really really good. I have a question about the height of the bridge. Anyone who knows the hight on the Ampeg Bass brigde? (From plate to center of the brigde , Available in cm ? :)
     
  11. Lightning Bug

    Lightning Bug

    Nov 17, 2005
    Rotterdam
    The original Azola bridge has metal washers glued under the feet, presumably to get metal-to-metal contact with the pickup, like the old Ampeg bridge. Your bridge looks different, but the glue blobs show that it too used to have these rings.

    See the first picture in this thread about KK basses
    KK Baby Basses; Hot Rodding The Pickups
     
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2016
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  12. Thanx :)
     
  13. David Morris

    David Morris Supporting Member

    May 22, 2002
    Lincoln, Nebraska
  14. donk

    donk

    Nov 5, 2006
    Just saw one in the classifieds now electric bass side.
    Armybass in Virginia
     
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  15. john m

    john m Supporting Member

    Jan 15, 2006
    A piece of wire has less resistance--- theoretcally zero.
    The pickup is the load on the input stage of the next device it's plugged into ( probably the preamp)
     
  16. Ideally Zero, not theoretically (as long as theory does it's job well).

    Francois is right, the load is in the input stage of the preamp (separately or as a first stage of a power amplifier). The piezo needs to deliver enough current for this load, but if the load is too high (the same as when the impedance is too low), it cannot deliver the current for the load and the voltage delivered drops to be able to deliver the current so that it fits to the load (Ohms law).
    A piezo acts like a variable voltage source with a capacitor in series. If the capacitor is fully loaded, no current goes through it unless it gets unloaded a bit.
     
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  17. john m

    john m Supporting Member

    Jan 15, 2006
    So the pot was limiting the current, no loading taking place.
     
  18. The pot wants more current than the piezo can deliver, so the voltage breaks down which changes the waveform. It does not happen around zero but the more the higher the amplitude gets. That also means if it sounds good if you play the bass softly it might get worse if you play your instrument louder.

    The limiting factor is the characteristic of the piezo and so you have to adapt the following electronic circuit for a high impedance to keep the current low.

    Pots with a resistance in the MegOhm range are not made and don't make sense, since they would be very sensible to electric noise. So do the current stabilization (with the impedance buffer) first and then throw in the volume pot after the loadable signal from the impedance buffer.
     
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  19. ross03

    ross03

    Jul 10, 2017
    he spiros came off my upright where they had been played on a daily basis for over a year.

    The pickup may have something to do with it. The bug I have now is borrowed and is an older model with the metal plate under the bridge. I just bought one which is on its way to me. This one is a newer model with no metal plate and the pickup looks slightly different. I was assuming they would sound about the same but I should probably wait to hear the new one.

    I am interested to hear what stings others are using on this bass.
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    Last edited: Jul 12, 2017
  20. dylanjohnson

    dylanjohnson Supporting Member

    Jul 9, 2002
    Morro Bay, CA
    Hey all, I was noticing in this picture that the overall length of the Lightning Bug is pretty similar to the Bugbass II. Has anyone had both of these? It looks like the main difference is the slightly shorter string length and the smaller body size to fit in the case, but I'm wondering if the regular Bugbass would fit in the SKB rifle case he used for the Lightning?
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