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Bacchus VS Sadowsky Metro

#81
It's used stock in their different branches, so it's on display in the stores in Japan as well as on the site. When I asked about my 02 Standard it was on hold in the store, the person didn't follow through so they put it on hold for me for a few days until I made the purchase. They are a shining example of great customer service.
 
#82
Here is the updated progress of my 24f:

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Jul 2
18:26 Posting/Collection (japan)

Jul 3
3:22 Dispatch from outward office of exchange (Japan)

Jul 4
19:44 Arrival at inward office of exchange (UK)
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Now that is fast! Shame it will sit with customs in the Uk for a few days until they can be bothered to look at it (assuming they are not on strike...)

Cheers
ped
 
#84
jzucker said:
Silly stuff...There's nothing wrong with the poly finishes on the sadowsky basses and they protect the wood a lot better than oil or a thin coat of lacquer and they're better for the environment.
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No, not silly at all.

Sadowsky charges extra for a nitro finish on the New York built models. UPGRADE :)

I'll put up with a poly finish on a budget instrument, but not on something high end. Sorry, that's just my personal preferance. When I'm spending over a grand, I want things to be exactly the way I want them. That would exclude poly finished instruments for me. I'd seriously have to hold my nose to fork over large money for a plastic coated instrment, and I'd always be wondering why they cheaped out instead of giving it what I consider to be a proper instrument grade finish.

You don't see Martin, Gibosn, or any other high end acoustic instruments finished with poly now do you?

You can argue untill the end of time wheather or not it makes a difference on a bass guitar. What you can't argue is what I want once we get above a certain price point. ;) IMO, at the Metro price point, poly is unacceptable.

Buying a bass made completely of plastic would be better for the enviornment than cutting down trees too, but I don't see everyone rushing out to buy plastic or synthetic basses.

My basses get worked pretty hard. A ding in poly vs. a ding in nitro really doesn't make a hill of beans difference to me either way. Nitro just plain feels and looks better to me. Poly is a comprimise no matter which way you slice it.


IMO Poly = Cheap.

Lucky for me, my Bacchus has a gorgeous Nitro finsh. That certainly was a factor in my choosing it over everything else on the market.
 
#86
savit260 said:
I'll put up with a poly finish on a budget instrument, but not on something high end. Sorry, that's just my personal preferance. When I'm spending over a grand, I want things to be exactly the way I want them. That would exclude poly finished instruments for me. I'd seriously have to hold my nose to fork over large money for a plastic coated instrment, and I'd always be wondering why they cheaped out instead of giving it what I consider to be a proper instrument grade finish.

You don't see Martin, Gibosn, or any other high end acoustic instruments finished with poly now do you?
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Sure you do. Larrivee,Taylor, Bourgeois , Soloway, etc., Also Roscoe, Alembic and many other high end basses and guitars. I much prefer poly because it's more durable and doesn't gum up like nitro.
 
#87
jzucker said:
Sure you do. Larrivee,Taylor, Bourgeous, Soloway, etc., etc. Do you even play or do you just smell them?
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Been playing for well over 25 years now. How about you?

I like the look, feel, and I like the way nitro ages. Excuse me for having an opinion. :D or a preferance. ;)

If you're cool with poly, that's great. I'm not on something high end. I'm also not real fond of the sound of Taylors Bourgeous, or Laravee's for that matter. Demo'd all that stuff in the past when I was looking for a nice sounding acoustic, and none of those did anything for me.

NEVER had nitro gum up on me, and my stuff gets the snot played out of it under vey hot stage lights all the time. I've never quite understood that critisism, or the "glossy necks are sticky" thing.
 
#88
jzucker said:
Sure you do. Larrivee,Taylor, Bourgeois , Soloway, etc., Also Roscoe, Alembic and many other high end basses and guitars. I much prefer poly because it's more durable and doesn't gum up like nitro.
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I suppose it's all in what you prefer.

I had an F Bass BN6 that had a nitro finish on it--I hated it. My Roscoes, Modulus', Spector, etc, have all had poly finishes on them. I'll take poly any day--seems much more bulletproof than nitro or oil finishes.
 
#90
Nitro is quite a bit more repairable than poly..

My family has owned a furniture repair and refinishing business since 1957 (it's been in business sine 1914) and they only use nitro. Why - cause you can repair it. Nope its not as durable as poly - but then again it's quite a bit less durable than aluminum and we all know how successful Tokai and Kramer were with that... LOL

Of course the major downside of nitro over poly (other than durability) of course is the $$$! Nitro is far more labor intensive to create a great finish... More labor = higher cost.
 
#92
I am not saying that poly finishes are bad. They can look fine, however they are very hard to repair (like almost impossible), they cost a lot less to apply and IMHO nitro looks and feels better - ya know, like organic feeling. For the manufacturer time is money tick tock tick tock!!!
 
#93
Like everything it's all a matter of preference, I wouldn't say one is better than the other, just what feels right in your hands. Personally, I've gotten quite fond of the oil finish, it doesn't bother me that it'll get nicks and dinks because I'm a clumsy, clumsy man and every instrument I have will get battered in the long run anyway, regardless of finish :)
 
#94
Doctor J said:
Like everything it's all a matter of preference, I wouldn't say one is better than the other, just what feels right in your hands. Personally, I've gotten quite fond of the oil finish, it doesn't bother me that it'll get nicks and dinks because I'm a clumsy, clumsy man and every instrument I have will get battered in the long run anyway, regardless of finish :)
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Isn't this a moot point since Roger just posted that he uses nitro on his necks? Regarding repairability, I don't worry about that too much since I prefer to play them and think of them as tools as opposed to pieces of furniture... And besides, poly is not only way more durable than nitro but it also dries faster. Nitro is still drying after 4-5 months and much more prone to scratching and denting.
 
#97
Doctor J said:
They're the old Impression model, discontinued about 5 years ago. I've been speaking to Aki via email over the last few days, very nice fella, and from the horses mouth...

"We are planning to make Impression35-5 again probably early next year as STANDARD35-5. The new STANDARD35-5 will have angled headstock like our Twenty-Four. "
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:hyper:

I like these Japanese guitar dealers/makers. They make sure they press the Caps Lock button before typing the model name. Smart advertising!

BTW, how is the angled headstock different from the normal ones? Anyone have a pic?
 
#98
After reading this thread again from the beginning, I think that part of the growing popularity with Bacchus is the mystique involved :) You can get any and all info you want on a Sadowski Metro in a matter of a few mouse clicks. Reviews are all over the net. The quality is legendary, no uncertainty about buying one. Bacchus info on the other hand, comes in bits and pieces, the odd photo or plenty of research. If Bacchus suddenly set up a US dealer and info and instruments were readily available, it would kill the mystique surrounding them.
 

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