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Baer Amplification Megathread!

#802
Flux Jetson said:
Ok, once more ... how loud? And for how long?

EDIT: Forget it, I just pm'd Roger. It's easier than getting one answer per post.
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Nothing special really needed for break in other than just playing your bass through the cab. Just avoid doing the old "Sounds great, wonder how loud it will get" ten minutes after you get the cab. Just keep the volume at moderate levels for the first 4 to 6 hours and you will be fine.
 
#804
Flux Jetson said:
Ok, once more ... how loud? And for how long?

EDIT: Forget it, I just pm'd Roger. It's easier than getting one answer per post.
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Sorry, didn't see that question! :)

I've always just set it by eye - when I see the cone moving really good I stop turning up the volume. There's ways to figure it out if you have the kit but I'm not that fancy.

Using low frequencies for a long time will break it in faster, that's it really. Just playing is fine but it takes several hours of solid abuse usually.
 
#805
rpsands said:
Sorry, didn't see that question! :)

I've always just set it by eye - when I see the cone moving really good I stop turning up the volume. There's ways to figure it out if you have the kit but I'm not that fancy.

Using low frequencies for a long time will break it in faster, that's it really. Just playing is fine but it takes several hours of solid abuse usually.
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Thanks tons! Now that there is some cool info. Makes a lot of sense actually. Watching cone movement makes a lot of sense.

Yea, I agree that 6 hours of bass playing is a lot of bass playing. I've considered setting up a bass midi sequence to play the modular synth set up with a good bass tone with some modulating filter sweeps (to provide a good range of bandwidth) might make things easier for impatient lazy people like myself. Just let the sequence run for a few hours, the play some bass guitar, then some more sequencing, and some more bass guitar ... Could have it done in a day so long as the fingers hold up.

Thanks for the help! Great stuff to add to the personal database of knowledge.

:hyper:
 
#806
I just received a brand spanking new ML112 yesterday to replace my Aguilar DB112. I definitely hear a big difference in tone. I have an Aguilar AG500 head and the tone is amazing. I won't have any problems breaking it in by simply playing because the tone is that good. It now makes sense about doing a new set up on my bass. I definitely hear my sloppy playing with this cab. In just the 20 minutes I played yesterday I was able to adjust my playing a bit to clean up the fret clack. I think with new strings and set up it will be even better. I can't wait to hear it in a band setting. From what I've heard so far I think one cab will be perfect for most playing situations. I'm definitely getting a second cab later on just because I can. Haha
 
#808
Oh, don't kid yourself....you'll get a second one

Double the pleasure

Double the fun :-)

I bought my second about a week after my first (my apologies for crappy cell phone pic) #'s 54 and 55
 

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#812
patas75 said:
I just received a brand spanking new ML112 yesterday to replace my Aguilar DB112. I definitely hear a big difference in tone. I have an Aguilar AG500 head and the tone is amazing. I won't have any problems breaking it in by simply playing because the tone is that good. It now makes sense about doing a new set up on my bass. I definitely hear my sloppy playing with this cab. In just the 20 minutes I played yesterday I was able to adjust my playing a bit to clean up the fret clack. I think with new strings and set up it will be even better. I can't wait to hear it in a band setting. From what I've heard so far I think one cab will be perfect for most playing situations. I'm definitely getting a second cab later on just because I can. Haha
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Have you used it with an upright bass yet. Sounds wonderful with my upright.
 
#813
rpsands said:
Sorry, didn't see that question! :)

I've always just set it by eye - when I see the cone moving really good I stop turning up the volume. There's ways to figure it out if you have the kit but I'm not that fancy.

Using low frequencies for a long time will break it in faster, that's it really. Just playing is fine but it takes several hours of solid abuse usually.
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+1

Breakin loosens up suspensions and generally "wears the new off". Mids usually smooth out a little, lows come in a little but it's not a necessary thing. They'll mechanically/electrically handle playing them right out of the box. Breaking in with sine waves/tone generators just speeds up the process.


FWIW, I've never setup and broke in any speaker like that, ever, and have never damaged one because of it either. I find a couple enthusiastic pracrtice sessions and a couple gigs where you can turn the thing up some and make it do what it does (within sane reason of course) works just fine.:p
 
#815
patas75 said:
I haven't plugged in the baby bass yet. I'm sure it will nail the latin thump. I'm not too fond of the piezo sound of the baby bass. It's too nasal.
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Are you using a 10 meg ohm (or something like it) buffer preamp with the bass? Most bass heads don't have a high enough input impedance for Piezo pickups. And for the Latin stuff I'd think you'd want more fundamental and less upper mids and highs.


I almost always use a good buffer preamp (Sansamp Paradriver) and bypass the front end of the amp. I go from the preamp out, to the effects in on the amp. If you do that, just make sure the preamp will push a power amp. Many preamps will do that.
 
#817
patas75 said:
It's the stock pickup on the bass. It is an ampeg reissue and has both a piezo and diaphragm pickup with an active preamp. I think it is a 1 meg ohm input.
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Putting something in line with a higher input impedance could very well even out the nasal thing more. The fdeck preamp, (on the upright bass side) is cheap and good. The Fishman BII is also a good basic preamp you could use in line. Unless you want to bypass the preamp of your amp, you just need something very basic. Especially if you're experimenting.

With my upright bass, I've used Fishman, Underwood, Polytone, and MANY other pickups. Almost every one of them has benefited from a buffer pre.
 
#820
Cab showed. Had to literally chase the Fed Ex guy down the street. He didn't even knock, he just left a little sticky on our door and split. Ended up calling Fed Ex and they made him turn around and come back! Dude had a serious attitude.

Now for the good part. Cab = HOME FRIGGIN RUN! Absolutely NO problems with clickety clackage. Zero! Here I was afraid I'd have to learn to play all over again. Nerp. That cab just makes me sound that much better. Super-fat sound. It is everything I was hoping it was going to be. Righteous beans! I hit it with about 50 watts and it was PLENTY loud. As the speaker loosened up it just got fatter and fatter. And all this while powered by a cheapo 100w Solid State Fender GUITAR AMP HEAD! It sounds that good. Tons of low end even with the silly amp!

My Mackie 1400i will be here in a few days. I'll run my Cort A4 through that oddball synth filter rig I use and then into the Mackie, out to Roger's ML112. I'm sure I'll be even more impressed then.

Good job Roger.. Well worth the fundolas. I'll recommend it every time the opportunity comes up.

If you're into fat bass sounds ... 70's tones with added bottom ... start with the Baer ML112. Built as well as any of the classics (the black Tolex and chromed corner hardware is just cool-as!), sounds like the biamped big Sunn 215s with Ampeg 215s running off of separate pickups .. all in a 1x12+1x6. Obviously not as loud as two refrigerator sized cabs and 600+ watts of tubes pushing them. But ~that sound~ is most definitely there. Most definitely! Add a sniff of reverb and you're taken away to enormous stadiums, a layer of blue smoke, and screaming crowds of multi thousands shouting your name. Add the Bastille Day riff and you're off and away and never coming back. And "everyone" is inside of it. Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, Dave Hope ... they are all in there. Light, easy to carry, mega-heavy duty handle. I'm partially disabled with a spinal injury. I had ZERO PROBLEMS carry it by myself with one hand. Well balanced, the handle is located in the proper spot .. right at the center of gravity. It could be carried up flights of stairs even by my bent-up and broken ass!

Danged well done, Roger. You just friggin nailed it. And to think you were worried about a guy that used to play an SVT being diasappointed! Huh! Hardly! I'm ridiculously impressed.

I'll be posting another review once the "first kiss giddyness" wears off a bit. I dare say that I don't think I'll have much different to say though.

:)
 

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