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Barefaced One10
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Depends on whom you ask. I think port-down gives best sound, including tight, present focused bass. One TBer thinks the bass is deeper on its side, but I'd think it would just be a tad muddier on the side with no reflecting surface under it. Subwoofers in your stereo don't have side ports, they have down ports. Also stacked vertically you'd get a little more height than on the sides, which helps you hear yourself better.
My 2 cents, YMMV, etc.
Port to the side gives the deeper low end sound. I often prefer port down for a tighter response.
Glad I stumbled on this thread!
Last night I was giving my new One10 a shakedown cruise and it was not impressing me. It was positioned vertically with the port shoved down in fairly deep carpet. I'll try it again with the port to the side!
Last night I was giving my new One10 a shakedown cruise and it was not impressing me. It was positioned vertically with the port shoved down in fairly deep carpet. I'll try it again with the port to the side!
Solution #1: Get a second micro amp head - one amp per cab - and slave one to the other
Solution #2: Get a Carvin B1000
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Doner Designs
Steve Doner
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Has anyone here A/B compared the Barefaced Big Baby to the Acme 112FR? They seem quite similar but Barefaced doesn't give the low end specs on their website. Acme says -3db at 41hz and -6db at 31hz if I remember right. Thunderous low end is the goal. I could live with the Acme 112 Flatwound model but figure the tweeter would help resale value if I decided to sell it. Any other ultra-low contenders in this weight class? My limit is 35-40 pounds and preferably right around 30 per box. Also considering a pair of Acme B-1's but not sure if they would be loud enough.
I like the Acme 212 and the Accugroove El Whappo, but both are way too heavy and big.
I like the Acme 212 and the Accugroove El Whappo, but both are way too heavy and big.
I've not seen the comparison made before. Perhaps the Barefaced club or a new thread would get you better results, given that this thread is titled to discuss the One10.
Doner Designs
Steve Doner
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I usually try to build on existing threads first, but you have a good point on both counts. Didn't know there was a club thread.
Got my One10 yesterday and went straight ahead to a gig with it.
First of all, the design is great! Very easy to carry, ie it's balanced really well. Gotta love that.
Played my upright through a EA Doubler and placed the cab off the floor first. Not so good but those were the very first notes I played through it so I was not worried.
For the second set I placed it on the floor behind me and it was a lot better! I've got another gig with it on saturday so we'll see. I'm playing music through it now to maybe open it up a little more...
Great cab!
Ps. The delivery was a great surprise since a didn't even know the cab was coming.
First of all, the design is great! Very easy to carry, ie it's balanced really well. Gotta love that.
Played my upright through a EA Doubler and placed the cab off the floor first. Not so good but those were the very first notes I played through it so I was not worried.
For the second set I placed it on the floor behind me and it was a lot better! I've got another gig with it on saturday so we'll see. I'm playing music through it now to maybe open it up a little more...
Great cab!
Ps. The delivery was a great surprise since a didn't even know the cab was coming.
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Same with me, I also prefer One10 placed on the floor. Much more bottom end. I guess that's how its down-firing port is designed to work.
You should probably try the speaker with the port facing down and with the port facing to the side. I have used it both ways and it depends on the room and the floor surface. If you are stuck with reasonably thick carpeting, I think it sounds better with the port on the side. I continue to love this Speaker as well as my BB2 and Super Midget.
YMMV.
Erik Hansen aka LowNote
Scotland
Agree, thick carpet = place port side-firing. The carpet blocks the port somewhat otherwise. Same has been true when I've had to place it on those old diner-style seat cushion benches. If you want more lows then on the floor is the way to go; other times, I don't need to milk more low out of it, and I might put it on a table or pole-mount. I have one pretty bad room I play often, and it takes elevating the One10 to give it clarity instead of boom. Nice that so small a cab can GET boom, though.
Like you, I too have a One10, BB2, and SM. They each bring something different to the table. Gigging the Four10 and a Ampeg PF-50T tonight, interested to see if the PF-50T all-tube 50W amp can cover this gig... bringing another more powerful amp too just in case.
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It did. Not the loudest gig in the world but it's a decent size room nonetheless.
I already have two BB2's but most of the bars I play are pretty small and the stage area pretty tight. Lately I have been running my bass through the FOH PA so my rig is really just to hear myself on stage. I have been taking only one BB2 with me to any gig that is not outdoor (where I use two) and has been plenty loud enough to hear myself on stage.
However, in my quest to keep my load in and out as easy as possible, I was wondering if the BF One10 would have enough volume to hear myself on stage when running my bass through the FOH. We play classic rock at a medium loud level. I know it wouldn't cut it as a standalone cab, but what about with FOH support? Would it make a good backline cab?
However, in my quest to keep my load in and out as easy as possible, I was wondering if the BF One10 would have enough volume to hear myself on stage when running my bass through the FOH. We play classic rock at a medium loud level. I know it wouldn't cut it as a standalone cab, but what about with FOH support? Would it make a good backline cab?
That's a good question and I don't know the answer (why am I responding, then?). I do have a One10 but I almost never have FOH and don't generally play very loud when using the One10. My therefore semi-unqualified opinion is that you might find that one is just a little lacking if you are playing in a medium loud classic rock band. However, my unqualified opinion also is that two One10's (or a Two10) would be spot on for that. A Two10 or One10 stack would have a very tiny footprint, but even at 15 pounds each, that's two cabs/two handles if its 2 One10's.
Money matters aside (I know, how is that possible? It's always a factor) maybe you should get a single One10 and see how it does for you. You might find it does the job (since everybody's definition of "medium loud" is different). If not, then you can add a 2nd. And, regardless, I think you'll find that there are many, many uses and situations for a One10 to be useful so it would be (IMO) a valuable addition to your cabinetry. And 2 of them would give you a lot of options from small (one) to 2 (medium to large with FOH) to large (BB2) to very large (2 BB2's).
I have a single BB2, and SM that I can pair with it, so kinda similar to your BB2 set-up, but I find its really very handy to have the One10 also.
Alternately, you could sell a BB2, replace it with a SM, and then again you have modular solutions. The SM is 21 pounds and a considerably smaller box than the BB2, and I think one SM would handle your gig as described without much trouble. This option would be more or less cash neutral. Just a thought.
I was thinking the same thing. Get a one10 and sell the second BB2, but pairing the two BB2's makes for some great thunder. It would be hard to part with the second one. A one10 looks really appealing when it comes hauling gear. Does the one10 sound like a smaller BB2, or does it have a totally different voicing?
As you stated money is a factor, and investing in Barefaced cabs is not an inexpensive endeavor, but worth it. I often wondered if Alex ever considered opening up a shop here across the pond to build his cabs and save us yanks the shipping costs.
The One10 and BB2 are different sounds.
I tried running my One10 with a Super Compact and gave up during the sound check. I preferred the sound of 2 Super Compacts.
Looks like I'm playing louder than some of you. I could run 2 One10's on a smaller gig but even then I'd probably use 2 SC's and just turn down because the headroom and fullness I get with both SC's is where my sound is these days.
I tried running my One10 with a Super Compact and gave up during the sound check. I preferred the sound of 2 Super Compacts.
Looks like I'm playing louder than some of you. I could run 2 One10's on a smaller gig but even then I'd probably use 2 SC's and just turn down because the headroom and fullness I get with both SC's is where my sound is these days.
