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Bass buying: Cost vs Skill-driven?

You're making a lot of assumptions based on things I never said in that post. Perhaps you quoted the wrong post by accident.

I'm simply stating that too many people judge solely based on the price and brand name.

"Better" will always be subjective, and I will never be brainwashed into becoming a slave to the name on a headstock.

I did quote the right person.

Sure one bass can be better for this or that situation that a more expensive instrument won't shine. You may like the less expensive instrument for a lot of reason.

It still doesn't remove the fact that the more expensive instrument is better made no matter what I mean... the 400$ instrument can't use expensive or well cured woods, electronics and pickup that cost just as much as the bass as a whole ... Will it be the best choice for your situation, maybe not and this is where your taste may tell you that the less expensive instrument is "better"
 
I 'm curious what is a high-end guitar these days? All i ever see are the usual Fenders, Gibbys and the occasional Paul Reid Smith. Or are you referring to acoustics? It seems like there are a lot more boutique options in basses which is odder cause there's less of us.

Well i guess it can mean different things to different people but I don't know where the line is drawn for what consitutes a high end guitar. I would imagine many people base it on price which isn't always a good marker. For my posting I meant high end in relation to basses and I bought an Alembic Stanley Clarke signature deluxe bass when I decided to take bass playing up a bit more seriously. is there a difference between boutique and high end?
 
I'd just like something that's easier to play, has halfway tone, and doesn't need constant care and feeding. Then I could focus more on learning, and less on the limitations of the tools. Trumpets were so much easier! And if I need to spend a little more cash to make that happen, that's OK.

Isn't it somewhat backwards that most beginners buy a cheap instrument, which can make learning difficult and uninspirational, where an expert player can probably play anything well, yet buys something far better?!
 
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After touring and chatting to other touring bands it seems that the gear used/purchased definitely relates to the intended use. Most touring musicians won't be taking their £1,000 plus basses with them as theres a risk of getting stolen/damaged in transport so find the happy medium of great sound and playability but easily replaced if needed then in the studio the big guns get whacked out so I guess it all depends what you're wanting to do with the gear purchased
 
I have already replied once and here we go again. In reading the preceding posts I found lots of good points and passionate arguments too. I can't say that I necessarily disagree with any of them in totality, but I can say this. I have a friend that is more collector than player. He can play, but rarely does. When pressed to play around others, he defers saying he hasn't prepared anything. That isn't to say he can't, as I have heard him play, he just expects perfection before playing before others. I digress, I can recall saying that I would never spend $X on an instrument because it isn't required as my $1/2X sounds/plays just as good. Now I have purchased 2 in that price range. I traded lesser cost instruments to help pay for the second. I feel like I got some GAS for the first nicer instrument. They had one at GC, which is unusual in some ways-- lots of mid to cheap basses on the wall, and I played it for about 2 hours one day and then bought it. It is certainly not the best bass one can buy, but its damn nice. It made me understand the difference between a mid priced instrument and one that is much more. It plays easily. I feel that I am a better player when I have it in my hands. It sounds better too. Has a wider range of tones. It has lots of things that I like. Some are important to tone and others are purely aesthetic. I like it a lot. When I returned one of the lower end instruments due to a defect I decided to trade the other because it was much harder to play and didn't sound as good as the new one I liked. I played several in the store. I played others that I wouldn't buy, just to get a feel for a particular shaped neck of one that I might order. Yes, I did have some criteria in terms of brands, number of strings, and frets, but was open to feel and tone. It became obvious that I could only meet 2 out of 3 criteria. Ultimately I chose based on the shape of the neck. I know that when I am picking up a bass to play, I grab my favorite because it is a joy to play. I feel like I will like the one I ordered because it should feel the same way and have good tone, different, but good.

Here is the point I am trying to make, sorry for the long way around the barn. If one likes the way a bass plays, they will play it more and thereby raise their skill at least to a level higher than where they are but not to exceed their gifts. If you handed me the most wonderfully crafted and beautifully toned bass ever made I will never play like "name your favorite virtuoso", but I will play like a better me. If only because I choose to play it more often and for longer periods of time. I will derive more enjoyment from the practice. Cost is relative to ones situation and mind set. For me, for awhile, that was instruments under a certain price point. Now it isn't. It is hard for me to imagine spending more than I did on the last 2, but I have said that before and never is a very long time. And most importantly, play the one/s you have. Play all the time. Play loud. Play soft. Have fun. Play music with others as often as possible. Laugh, live and dream. One day you will have the one you dream about-- whatever that price point may be.

Hope all that makes sense.
 
The only time I ever equated a bass's price with my playing ability was when I bought my first decent bass, a Warwick. At the time, I was only about 2 years into my commitment with bass, after playing guitar for 10+ years. I felt that the higher quality bass made certain things easier to play, and was more expressive- hence making me a better player. Not sure if that was even true, but it felt true at the time. Since then I've owned around 100 basses (from $100-$5000), and the price of the bass has no any more relationship to how I play it, and to be honest, not a whole lot to do with the sound at a gig. Amp settings and room effect my sound far more than any bass.
 
Isn't it somewhat backwards that most beginners buy a cheap instrument, which can make learning difficult and uninspirational, where an expert player can probably play anything well, yet buys something far better?!

IMO that's not nearly as true now as perhaps it was 20 - 30 years ago or less. A lot of today's new lower end instruments (Ibanez, Squier to name a couple I happen to be personally familiar with, there are numerous others) set up properly can actually be pretty darn good players. I seriously doubt that a $5000 whatever is going to make a beginner want to play more or learn faster than a $250 properly set up "beginners" bass would, but that's just one opinion FWIW.
 
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Trumpets (and all brass and woodwinds) also cost a lot more. Even boutique basses are relatively cheap compared to many other instruments.

No Sh%t! Try buying a decent double bass. Or a saxophone. Or my daughters flute. A "cheap" bass is FAR better in quality than a "cheap" flute or clarinet. We have some decent double basses we just bought for my school orchestra and they were $4,000+ each. How much electric bass can you get for that? I could buy a couple really nice used Roscoes of that.
 
Didnt wade through the posts, but in my experience, if a bass has the appropriate build quality and hardware, it can be set up to play and be appreciated by any player.

Ive played a few expensive basses for a short period of time, and didnt like them purely based on the set-up. Ive played a few cheap basses that were great because they were set-up the way i like.

Quality (perhaps wrongly associated with price tag) of the instrument isn't really what im after (within reason), its the inspiration the bass gives.
 
I play what sounds good through my fingers (or while playing with a pick) and I never stop learning. When I was touring, sometimes a cheap Ibanez SR bass gave me the tone I was after, other days were Warwick days. Easily a $2k difference in price.

Basses for me follow a simple path in quality, there's acceptable quality..... then everything else which I don't really have a name for, so i'll just say "bells and whistles". An Ibanez Gio bass is about the cheapest I can get away with while still kicking out an acceptable tone. The necks on them last a few years at best, which is proportional to their cost.