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Bass in rap music

#24
Bassdirty said:
I dont mind the rap of the late 80s/early 90s.there was almost an innocence(sp?) to it.
Nowadays everyones gotta be all "hard" or bada$$.

Then theres the crossover to the .."top 40 rappy...r&b"..whatever you call it(I call it 13 yr old girl music)..all that stuff that is popular for 18 hours and rammed down your throat the whole time..its soooo cliche now, and the same formula over..n over...n over.
The good thing is ,it can't last forever(I hope;))..almost like what happened to glam in the late 80's.
Hmmm..but what will take its place..wheres the nirvana/pearl jam of today?

JMO?..rant over.

But yeah, some rap has/(had) cool bass lines.
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I know some of them are 'stink', but..

Funny, IMHO I always seeing something new in hiphop/rap music. I see them always loking for something new for the music, sometime with their extreme open mindedness they make surprisingly new thing in music.
The contrary of that is that musicians who always play the 'old formula'.
I love Blues, Rock, or even Jazz too.
But I can't stand people who always play the old formula of music.
I mean, oh come on,.. Big guitar solo? Zeppelinish riffs? 50s Jazz? 80s slap fusion bass? Make no mistake, I love Zeppelin, 50s Jazz, I love old music and even learn and play them. But to keep repeating that publicily sucks man.

I don't have to like to what kids now love, but I appreciate it if they bring or at least try to bring 'new things of creativity' in music.

And when I can appreciate it but I can't like it, sometimes It makes me think maybe that's the sign that I'm already old, not their mistake.
 
#28
I don't understand why anyone would take the time to post in a thread about rap if they don't like it. I used to be a lot more narrow in my tastes, listening only to hard rock and prog and such, but the odler I get the more I try to keep an open mind. There are still genres I don't care for, but rap isn't one of them. It's kind of a hybrid art form between music and poetry and the better stuff is pretty dark and thought-provoking. It all has a gritty "street" feel and, like rock was back in the day, it's meant to upset the grownups. I'm okay with that, even if I don't appreciate all of it.
 
#31
jlane72t said:
To say all rap is terrible based on something you're hearing on the radio
is EXACTLY THE SAME
as saying all rock is terrible based on hearing Nickelback on the radio.

it's not the genre
it's that you're listening to the radio
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Amen.

It's like hearing a justin bieber (or insert any other fad big name from the last three decades or so) on the radio and saying pop music is just poo.

I personally can't stand 80's hair metal, trance techno and finnish three chord rock, but still I find some kind of solace from trying to think that it's not necessarily just because the music is bad, but my personal taste, view of world and especially limitations stand in the way of appreciating what's good in those styles of music. Sometimes I even actively try and find that thing and it has opened a whole new world of discovery. Of course it's often like pulling teeth, but still, less hating makes me happier.

Rap is one example. Fifteen years ago I couldn't stand it because my views and what I _thought_ rap was all about stood in the way. Then I found some grooves just too fine to miss and slowly I've grown to absolutely love it. Of course there is plenty of crap too, but the percentage isn't any higher than with any other form of music.
 
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#35
THIRSTYGUMS said:
Rap and hip hop was one of the most most important things to happento music in the late 20th century, if you cant see whats GREAT about it your either too too old/ ignorant/ deaf or possibly racist. yep.. im serious.
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Or maybe we just see it for what it is. Every thing sounds the same. There is no melody, no originality. Most so called "rap artists" rely on sampling and looping which requires absolutely no musicianship or creativity. The sad part is that they usually sample songs that are 20 or 30 years old and hope that nobody notices. I am 51, my son is 22 and he hates rap for the reasons I mentioned. Maybe you need to realize that we all have different tastes instead of trying to defend your position and attack others. I really don't care what people listen to. In today's music there is something for everybody. If you can't see past that, I suggest you read the words shaded in green that you wrote.
 
#37
Rockmusician said:
There is no melody, no originality. . .
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There is melody and originality.

Rockmusician said:
..sampling and looping which requires absolutely no musicianship or creativity. .
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You need good musicianship & creativity to do that, believe me, it's not that easy to make good 'sample based' music.
And the fact is it's such a culture of new music production not only in Rap/hiphop but also in other music genres like rock too, if you notice.

Rockmusician said:
they usually sample songs that are 20 or 30 years old and hope that nobody notices. .
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In all genre, musicians 'steal', 'borrow' or take something from the older music in their own way. It's a kind of appreciation, honour or tribute to the original musician, actually.
Rap/HipHop Producers do that to the extreme sometime. But they pay, licensed and get permission from the right owner.
They have to write the credit of original artist whose music they sampled in their CD cover and sometime it can be a good way of lesson to learn for the listener to appreciate or at least know the original artist, that maybe they (usually young generation) don't know/care before.

Rockmusician said:
we all have different tastes instead of trying to defend your position and attack others. I really don't care what people listen to. .
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Agree with this :)


Peace
 

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