Bass Player 4x10" Shootout

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by barroso, Jan 19, 2009.

  1. barroso


    Aug 16, 2000
    Reading an old issue of Bass Player magazine I realized that years ago they made a shootout of 4x10" cabinet. From my understanding, this was featured on the November issue of the magazine, year 1995. I know that's a pretty old shootout but i would be really interested in thaking a look to what they wrote about some 4x10" cabs.
    Is there anyone who has this old BP and is able to make a scan and send it to me?
  2. I can tell you that the Eden and SWRs were two flavors of winnah!
  3. lbwdog

    lbwdog Guest

    Jun 2, 2005
    Mississippi Coast
    Ironically, that's about the time a lot of people seemed to start criticizing SWR because they were now part of the " Fender Evil Empire" Also '95 was when I bought my first Goliath III because of it's clean tone,low frequency response, and power handling.

    When I had to recone all four drivers after Katrina, I asked my speaker guru if I would be better off relacing them with another brand. He told me the PAS OEMs were the best 10" speakers you could use in a bass cab!

    EDIT: I misread first post...was thinking 2005!!
  4. CrashClint

    CrashClint I Play Bass therefore I Am

    Nov 15, 2005
    Wake Forest, NC
    DR Strings Dealer (local only)
    Now Epifani and Aguilar would probably be the winners.
  5. barroso


    Aug 16, 2000
    Was Hartke among the cabs tested in the shootout?
  6. uaudio


    Apr 11, 2008
    In 1995?
  7. rodneyat


    Apr 12, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    That is what I was thinking..If memory serves me correctly. That would have been around '03-'04.
  8. 57pbass

    57pbass Supporting Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Bayside, New York
    I have always had a 4 x 10 Goliath in my stable of cabinets. I had the first type of Goliath with the rear port and used that with the SWR SM 400 for years...always got a great result.

    I now own a Goliath lll 4 Ohm and use it with a few different heads..but it always gets the job done with out problem.
    I was looking at the Epifani UL line but they are too pricey for me.. I paid 350 for the Goliath and its brand new used..The Epi is usually in the 700 900 range..I would rather use the 600 dollars on something else...

    The Goliath IMHO should in the "Classic " Category...
  9. mike_v_s

    mike_v_s Guest

    In 1995, SWR still would have been "SWR Engineering".

  10. Blues Bass 2

    Blues Bass 2 Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2001
    Davenport Iowa
    I remember that issue. Like the other guys said the Eden and SWR were the kings. They also liked the Genz Benz very much,the one with the ports in the bottom front.
  11. Jason Hollar

    Jason Hollar Jazz & Cocktails

    Apr 17, 2005
    Central Pa
    I've used SWR for years and am still amazed by the quality. I have two 2x10s and one 4x10 -- all G III's.

    I'd love to buy something newer and fancier -- but these darn things just won't die!

    I guess that's a good thing in this econmony.
  12. TomB

    TomB Supporting Member

    Aug 24, 2007
    That '95 article was pre-Neo, so I would think it of limited usefulness today. I will root around and see if it's handy, however.

    I wonder if BP would consider that kind of shoot-out again, or is it just too much work w/the monthly format?
  13. buckminster

    buckminster Inactive

    Apr 29, 2006
    Sacramento, CA
    I'd still take an Eden 410XLT any day. It's just too big and heavy for what I need though...
  14. LowBSix


    Mar 25, 2008
    818 ~ 805 ~ L.A.
    Endorsing Artist: GHS Strings
    +1 and let's not forget MESA!!! :cool:
  15. JMDT


    Jan 30, 2008
    Louisville, Ky
    Genz Benz made cabinets back that far? I've only seen them in the last 2-3 years.
  16. mike_v_s

    mike_v_s Guest

    Yeah, I remember first seeing them in a Buyer's Guide put out by one of the magazines around 1994 or 1995. I believe it was the model with the 4 ports on the bottom. That issue was my first exposure to Acme, as well.


  17. mrpackerguy

    mrpackerguy Supporting Member

    Jul 3, 2004
    Madison, Wisconsin
    My Acme Low B4 has to be in there
  18. lbwdog

    lbwdog Guest

    Jun 2, 2005
    Mississippi Coast
    Sorry....I misread original post....I was thinking 2005!!
  19. El Tookay

    El Tookay Supporting Member

    Sep 19, 2008
    I remember that shot-out well- hey, had Michael Anthony on the cover. The top tone boxes were the SWR Goliath II and the Eden 410T, with a special nod going to Peavey 410TX. i've used all 3 at one time or another, and they're all great cabs, but given the changing times and tone 'fashion', I don't think any of them would do so well today in a 'shoot-out'- well, maybe the Peavey. Back then, the rear-ported 410 was the rage, and everyone was after that tight tone. Now, cabs are ported, front-slots, and even returning to the folded horn concept.

    The G-2 is a classic cab, but may not sound so good with what players are wanting today. OTOH, in the same shootout, the Genz Benz didn't fare so well in the points, but by today's standards, would be in the top three.

    A 410 shoot-out today would have to include Bergantino, Epifani, Genz-Benz, Eden, SWR, Avatar, Schroeder, Dr. Bass, GK, and on and on...and then, there's the Neo aspect...
  20. danomite64


    Nov 16, 2004
    Tampa, Florida
    I have all the BP's, so I'll try to remember and scan it when I get home. If memory serves, they reproduced that shootout in their 'best of BP' mag titled 'Bass Gear'.