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Bass recording - what's your chain??
- Thread starter harlon
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I used to try and put all kinds of crap in my chain, never got what I wanted.
Now:
DI-
My Roscoe or Warwick > JDI > API 512 > Lynx Aurora.
Mic-
Same basses > Eden Metro (EQ flat) > Soundelux U195 > UA 2-610 > Lynx Aurora.
Mix to taste (usually more DI than amp). I have taken to compressing during mix, not tracking, seems to suit me well.
Sounds great and is very flexible.
Less is way more, helps me concentrate on the parts, relax, play better, and use my fingers for tone.
BM
Now:
DI-
My Roscoe or Warwick > JDI > API 512 > Lynx Aurora.
Mic-
Same basses > Eden Metro (EQ flat) > Soundelux U195 > UA 2-610 > Lynx Aurora.
Mix to taste (usually more DI than amp). I have taken to compressing during mix, not tracking, seems to suit me well.
Sounds great and is very flexible.
Less is way more, helps me concentrate on the parts, relax, play better, and use my fingers for tone.
BM
You know (original poster here) this has been a very informative and interesting thread. I think I've read it 2 or 3 times.
Then I had a thought:
What if folks who shared their studio setups could go back and post a song or 2 in which the given setup was used. (A few folks did do that) It would be a great way to hear other musicians at work and play and gain knowledge at the same time. As I said, just a thought. I have a new track I'll share, but I have to find a server to upload to, first.
You can just go back to your post in which you shared your setup, edit, and post the link(s) there.
This'll be a hoot, as we sometimes say in South Texas!
Then I had a thought:
What if folks who shared their studio setups could go back and post a song or 2 in which the given setup was used. (A few folks did do that) It would be a great way to hear other musicians at work and play and gain knowledge at the same time. As I said, just a thought. I have a new track I'll share, but I have to find a server to upload to, first.
You can just go back to your post in which you shared your setup, edit, and post the link(s) there.
This'll be a hoot, as we sometimes say in South Texas!
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I had recorded the best sounds that I have had in years by going direct POST out from my Carvin BX1200 head and at the same time had a SM57 mic'd up from my 8x10 cab. Blended them together and sounded great...just an idea and very simple.
Bass (Sadowsky 24F5/Rob Allen MB2/Dingwall ABII/Fender P5) -> Avalon U5 -> Mbox 2 -> iMac
Sounds great. Pondering the Ampeg SVX plugin if I want "grittier" sounds.
Later
Rob
Sounds great. Pondering the Ampeg SVX plugin if I want "grittier" sounds.
Later
Rob
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lately my jam has been:
bass ( '78 jazz, '74 ripper, or fodera imperial 5) into a radial JDI into a neve 1084 into either an 1176, dbx 160a, or gates sta-level.
also, my aguilar rig (db751 into db212) with a nice old neumann, either my cmv563, u67, or a u87... or i'll borrow the fet47 from the studio next door if they aren't using it.... into another 1084, and sometimes a comp.
sometimes (often) there are a bunch of pedals in between the bass and the DI/amp, too.
this setup works for everything... from crazy electro synth sounds to classic pick rock tones to clean modern sesh stuff.
john
bass ( '78 jazz, '74 ripper, or fodera imperial 5) into a radial JDI into a neve 1084 into either an 1176, dbx 160a, or gates sta-level.
also, my aguilar rig (db751 into db212) with a nice old neumann, either my cmv563, u67, or a u87... or i'll borrow the fet47 from the studio next door if they aren't using it.... into another 1084, and sometimes a comp.
sometimes (often) there are a bunch of pedals in between the bass and the DI/amp, too.
this setup works for everything... from crazy electro synth sounds to classic pick rock tones to clean modern sesh stuff.
john
I've been recording a new song with my friend/roommate using the following chain:
Lakland Skyline DJ4 > Ampeg SVT-VR DI (pre-EQ) > Presonus Audiobox > REAPER 4.0 alpha
It sounds really good, in my opinion. I'm running the SVT-VR into an SVT810E while playing but I haven't bothered to mic it. Once I get the dry track, I add compression and slight EQ. For this particular song, I add a tiny bit of chorus effect.
The biggest problem with the recording has been the mixing process. It's been really hard to get a nice sounding mix with my earbuds. I'm also really new to the process. We're going to rerecord a lot of the tracks because the mic we used wasn't that great. We'll now use an Audio Technica AT2020. It's sure to be a big step up from the $15 Peavey we used initially. Hopefully that will capture the vocals better so they sit better in the mix.
Lakland Skyline DJ4 > Ampeg SVT-VR DI (pre-EQ) > Presonus Audiobox > REAPER 4.0 alpha
It sounds really good, in my opinion. I'm running the SVT-VR into an SVT810E while playing but I haven't bothered to mic it. Once I get the dry track, I add compression and slight EQ. For this particular song, I add a tiny bit of chorus effect.
The biggest problem with the recording has been the mixing process. It's been really hard to get a nice sounding mix with my earbuds. I'm also really new to the process. We're going to rerecord a lot of the tracks because the mic we used wasn't that great. We'll now use an Audio Technica AT2020. It's sure to be a big step up from the $15 Peavey we used initially. Hopefully that will capture the vocals better so they sit better in the mix.
Here is my support to this thread.
http://www.box.net/files#/files/0/f/0/1/f_585284038
This track isnt mixed and i just set levels for this demo clip.
My chain is as follows:
Alleva Coppolo LG5 Classic Supreme
Line 1: REDDI - Chandler LTD1 - DBX160 SL (blue face comp) - Lynx Aurora 8 -
Line 2: Aguilar DB751 - MD421 - Groove Tubes ViPre - Lynx Aurora 8
CUBASE 5
blended together...
this is just one application. i can find some samples that have been mixed but i figured a raw sample would serve best!
http://www.box.net/files#/files/0/f/0/1/f_585284038
This track isnt mixed and i just set levels for this demo clip.
My chain is as follows:
Alleva Coppolo LG5 Classic Supreme
Line 1: REDDI - Chandler LTD1 - DBX160 SL (blue face comp) - Lynx Aurora 8 -
Line 2: Aguilar DB751 - MD421 - Groove Tubes ViPre - Lynx Aurora 8
CUBASE 5
blended together...
this is just one application. i can find some samples that have been mixed but i figured a raw sample would serve best!
My most recent session:
Sadowsky UV70 5 string -> Warwick Hellborg Preamp -> QSC 1602 -> AccuGroove Whappo Jr
DI taken from the Hellborg, a vintage AKG D12 on the bottom 12" of the Whappo Jr, and a Beyerdynamic Oppus 99 on the top 12".
Sadowsky UV70 5 string -> Warwick Hellborg Preamp -> QSC 1602 -> AccuGroove Whappo Jr
DI taken from the Hellborg, a vintage AKG D12 on the bottom 12" of the Whappo Jr, and a Beyerdynamic Oppus 99 on the top 12".
HB1975 Jazz Bass -> BDI21 ->Effects chain -> Ashdown MAG300
I use the DI signal from the BDI and mic the Ashdown combo with a Shure SM57.
I use the DI signal from the BDI and mic the Ashdown combo with a Shure SM57.
ChrisG19 said:I do two tracks: one track from the DI on my Eden head and the other track from a MIC in front of the speaker (Eden 210XLT).
Update: P bass --> REDDI --> board
^^drool! 
these days it's pretty much RBI and U5 > distressors > L2 (convertors only, or very light limiting)
oh and the basses are P rounds, P/J flats, JV rounds
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these days it's pretty much RBI and U5 > distressors > L2 (convertors only, or very light limiting)
oh and the basses are P rounds, P/J flats, JV rounds
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That works but I still think that an amp pushing some air is nice too. So I go:
Fender P w/flats into a DI and (if I can get my hands on it) an Ampeg B15N Portaflex. Mic the Ampeg and mix the signals. It's the DI plus the mic'd amp that really makes me happy. Add 2" tape into the equation and I'm just smiling all day long.
More often the engineer has been impressed with my live tone to want to mic up my rig but sometimes when time ($$) is short direct is the best choice. My most recent recordings have all been direct using anything from my Sansamp to a Vintech.
I used to use a Warwick thumb 5 bolt on to an SWR 750x into an ampeg 810 and cheap regular shure 58 mic
At home:
Tech 21 Sansamp RPM > Clean and Effected Outputs > Tascam US-1641
Effected set pretty dirty as the "main" tone, and clean used for reamping and/or VST effects.
At the jam space:
Ampeg SVT-2 PRO > Emperor 2x15> Mic > Interface
Haven't dialed this one in yet exactly, but it'll happen soon.
Tech 21 Sansamp RPM > Clean and Effected Outputs > Tascam US-1641
Effected set pretty dirty as the "main" tone, and clean used for reamping and/or VST effects.
At the jam space:
Ampeg SVT-2 PRO > Emperor 2x15> Mic > Interface
Haven't dialed this one in yet exactly, but it'll happen soon.
Hughes and Kettner Red Box Classic just arrived today as well. Should come in handy in the studio!
