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Bass sustainer developed in 2000 what you think?

Hey Wizoon, how's it progressing? Peru can be cold too, at least up the mountains... :)
Hello, progress slow with peruvian burocracy for papers, hope this month finaly get my RUC to open a Indiego crowdfunding, besides just came back from Portugal this week unfortunantly my mother is no longer with us...


there was this - sustainer! | TalkBass.com

anyway, looks intresting. is like the e-bow thing, that good for bass?
i would like one..

no, very diferent , second week of september i will travel to Lima( Peru seems to be resumed to one place) hope have some time to upload some videos, were theres decent internet i tryed to upload some videos here but the maximum speed is less then 54k

I would kickstart the **** out of this.
cant make kikstart im getting my papers for the Ruc so i can open bank account etc and has Kikstart dont work here in this country i have to go with indiego, i decided to put a seccion on my website for musical open source hardware i have very cool concepts i would like to share with you all, you will really like some ideas.
 
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Make sure you have enough funding/money to patent it. Try find all pitfalls and caveats. At least patent 20 variants of it, so no one can come up with the same idea. By and large I've actually asked Paul Vo this question on his website by now. He was the one inventing the Moog guitar that had infinite polyphonic sustain on all strings, as well as the other way around, LESS SUSTAIN, which made it turn into some banjo thing. He actually has an own company now, doing this stylus sustainer that looks like a felt marker tip pen. Among other things. He did reply to my mail, but it seemed that he got too many other things in mind at the moment, and didn't think it would go down a bomb. I e it seems like those interested are more into some kind of NEW SOUNDS with NEW gear. "Mimicking" old gear or the idiosyncrasies of shorter decay on strings, seemed not to be of his interest. I think he's not playing bass at all, at least not the upright. All this, in spite of him actually knowing how to pull it off technically.

FWIW, I think a gadget like this has to be incorporated inside the pickups, freeing your hands. Paul Vo has gadgets that must be held or additionally attached to any guitar/bass body.

Now only if the method of capturing the "wood reverb" so to speak like they do on those Fishman Aura boxes would be fixed too, then I am all game. Fishman CEO is a bassist too, and would long for something like that to happen. As it is now, they say it's almost insurmountable to produce the same things on the lower frequencies. I e these two things should need to go together:

a) "Wood box" resonance like the Fishman Aura with "toneprints". Only, not from guitar, but from huge acoustic basses (of high quality).
b) Reverse sustainer, like the Paul Vo one on Moog guitar. Not endless sustain, but shortening it instead, especially as you go up the neck.


These two are - together - of paramount importance. Not either or. The first one MAY be fixed with additional pedal later on, and don't need to be a fixture gadget added inside the pickup cavity. Added option is, of course, endless sustain, if you care to play like that. There's actually one on YouTube who plays nice "hornlike" lines on a fretless bass and TWO E-bows taped together. So endless sustain may have its merits. But it's more of a fringe benefit than anything else.
 
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Sorry to hear about your mother Wizmoon. My sympathies. My father's at it right now, and we're (siblings) waiting. But he's 87 so...it's sort of expected, in a way. You can't wish or demand too much miracles at that age. Max 2 weeks. Talk about ... sustain...;)
 
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Make sure you have enough funding/money to patent it. Try find all pitfalls and caveats. At least patent 20 variants of it, so no one can come up with the same idea. By and large I've actually asked Paul Vo this question on his website by now. He was the one inventing the Moog guitar that had infinite polyphonic sustain on all strings, as well as the other way around, LESS SUSTAIN, which made it turn into some banjo thing. He actually has an own company now, doing this stylus sustainer that looks like a felt marker tip pen. Among other things. He did reply to my mail, but it seemed that he got too many other things in mind at the moment, and didn't think it would go down a bomb. I e it seems like those interested are more into some kind of NEW SOUNDS with NEW gear. "Mimicking" old gear or the idiosyncrasies of shorter decay on strings, seemed not to be of his interest. I think he's not playing bass at all, at least not the upright. All this, in spite of him actually knowing how to pull it off technically.

FWIW, I think a gadget like this has to be incorporated inside the pickups, freeing your hands. Paul Vo has gadgets that must be held or additionally attached to any guitar/bass body.

Now only if the method of capturing the "wood reverb" so to speak like they do on those Fishman Aura boxes would be fixed too, then I am all game. Fishman CEO is a bassist too, and would long for something like that to happen. As it is now, they say it's almost insurmountable to produce the same things on the lower frequencies. I e these two things should need to go together:

a) "Wood box" resonance like the Fishman Aura with "toneprints". Only, not from guitar, but from huge acoustic basses (of high quality).
b) Reverse sustainer, like the Paul Vo one on Moog guitar. Not endless sustain, but shortening it instead, especially as you go up the neck.


These two are - together - of paramount importance. Not either or. The first one MAY be fixed with additional pedal later on, and don't need to be a fixture gadget added inside the pickup cavity. Added option is, of course, endless sustain, if you care to play like that. There's actually one on YouTube who plays nice "hornlike" lines on a fretless bass and TWO E-bows taped together. So endless sustain may have its merits. But it's more of a fringe benefit than anything else.

Hope i can, thank you

Sorry to hear about your mother Wizmoon. My sympathies. My father's at it right now, and we're (siblings) waiting. But he's 87 so...it's sort of expected, in a way. You can't wish or demand too much miracles at that age. Max 2 weeks. Talk about ... sustain...;)

Thanks, im still in a denial fase , its life we just have to preserve all good memories and moments with them.
Enjoy your moment with your father the possible way and make him smile and feel loved ... my sympathies too all the best
 
Well it's all over now, so let's move on with the topic at hand.

One thing, I slightly wonder about, is why are you seeking to pursue this business in different South American countries? I can understand Brazil, since you're portuguese, and you can talk spanish too, but why "trying countries" out? I would find it harder to make any impact of your ideas in those countries, than say the anglosaxian, western part of the world. In those countries, they seem to be more interested in traditional instruments, and music.

You said, you've tried Brazil, but it didn't work out, and then you moved to Peru.... why? Cheaper bureacracy? Fees? wages?
 
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Well it's all over now, so let's move on with the topic at hand.

One thing, I slightly wonder about, is why are you seeking to pursue this business in different South American countries? I can understand Brazil, since you're portuguese, and you can talk spanish too, but why "trying countries" out? I would find it harder to make any impact of your ideas in those countries, than say the anglosaxian, western part of the world. In those countries, they seem to be more interested in traditional instruments, and music.

You said, you've tried Brazil, but it didn't work out, and then you moved to Peru.... why? Cheaper bureacracy? Fees? wages?
Hello! theres no words for that just lived that too just wish you the best.
Yes i am.
No, not trying in business terms! You see my wife is peruvian and a few time later we though in work in Brazil but living every day in a constant fear wasnt for us, in Portugal was ok but to complicated for her to start working as a Doctor, to much burocracy and explotation of foreign doctors, so the next logical step was Peru, were i can make my things and she can work in her things.
The problem is just in the begining for example i traveled to Lima Monday arrived tuesday , went to interpol ask for the criminal records , traveled again in the same day arrived in wednesday, now tomorow will travel again to get the document and deliver in imigration to get residence, next step will be to get the RUC for my company so i can do what explained before. meanwile i leave some fotos of the bass i builded (the cool thing is that all hardware, tuners bridge inox fretwire etc,and almost electronics are build by me)here for the sustainer demo, just uploading wait a moment.

Edit: Ok , with a 34kbps download speed you can imagine the upload, give up in uploading lets put a facebook link to fotos:Link Removed Link Removed Link RemovedLink Removed

Please tell me if you can see the pictures because of facebook privacy, never understood that
 
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im almost there :) last step iniciated on 15 october