Behringer XR18 X-Air

[BassikLee]

Yep, they work better than my iPad did before I got that new router.

Those tablets are super cheap, wow. They're working well for you?

 

[peterpalmieri]

Thinking about this as a hardwired option.

Inspiron 11 3000 Series Laptop | Dell United States

Plugged into an external router as my backup to an iPad? Any input if this is a good idea? Or better option?

 

[tkonbass]

Thinking about this as a hardwired option.

Inspiron 11 3000 Series Laptop | Dell United States

Plugged into an external router as my backup to an iPad? Any input if this is a good idea? Or better option?

It does not have an Ethernet port how will you be attaching it to your router?

Here's a couple options with ethernet.
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[tkonbass]

Keep in mind that all of the heavy lifting (processing) is done by the X-Air mixer. The laptop or tablet is really just serving as a control surface. I am currently using an 8 year old Dell laptop scavenged from my company's discard pile for my wired backup. It is now dedicated to PA duty and works without issue. The computer/tablet really does not need to be anything special.

 

[peterpalmieri]

It does not have an Ethernet port how will you be attaching it to your router?

Here's a couple options with ethernet.
Amazon.com: ASUS Premium High Performance 14" Full HD 1920x1080 Flagship Laptop Intel Celeron Dual Core-Processor 4GB RAM 32GB HDD HDMI WIFI WEBCAM　Windows 10- Blue: Computers & Accessories

Amazon.com: HP 15.6" HD WLED Backlit Display Laptop, AMD A6-7310 Quad-Core APU 2GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD WiFi, DVD+/-RW, Webcam, Windows 10, Black: Computers & Accessories

Cool thanks. I was thinking I could use a USB to Ethernet adapter but these would work fine too.

 

[peterpalmieri]

Keep in mind that all of the heavy lifting (processing) is done by the X-Air mixer. The laptop or tablet is really just serving as a control surface. I am currently using an 8 year old Dell laptop scavenged from my company's discard pile for my wired backup. It is now dedicated to PA duty and works without issue. The computer/tablet really does not need to be anything special.

Thanks I have an I pad and I mac. My only concern is having a hardwired option if I have wifi problems. I don't have any old laptops laying around.

Assuming I spend $50 on a router and $200 on a laptop. I do wonder if the x touch compact turns out to be a better hardwired option for similar cost. Not worried about set up and getting things in order but just if I lose connections mid set as I will be running from on stage so it's mostly set and forget.

If I can do a wired touch screen that would be a bonus

 

[s0c9]

My only concern is having a hardwired option if I have wifi problems.

ALways good to have a backup plan. However, FWIW - we run TWO X32's (rack and producer) pretty much exclusively OFF wireless.
Yes, there are manual controls that act as backups on both, but we've never had to use them for that purpose.

 

[FuturePrimitive]

Assuming I spend $50 on a router and $200 on a laptop. I do wonder if the x touch compact turns out to be a better hardwired option for similar cost.

Where are you finding an X-Touch for ~$250?!

EDIT: Oops, missed that 'compact' in there. But even the compact is still another $150 more.

 

[peterpalmieri]

Where are you finding an X-Touch for ~$250?!

EDIT: Oops, missed that 'compact' in there. But even the compact is still another $150 .

If it is really step up an extra $150 I can deal with. I like the touch screen so a Ethernet cable touch screen is probably ideal. but worth exploring the idea

 

[john mahon]

If it is really step up an extra $150 I can deal with. I like the touch screen so a Ethernet cable touch screen is probably ideal. but worth exploring the idea

I've been using an XR18 for about a year and a half, and been checking out all the various control options. I am pretty sure that the X-Touch Compact can not be used to control the XR18. It does not have an Ethernet connection necessary for the job.

 

[Geri O]

I've been using an XR18 for about a year and a half, and been checking out all the various control options. I am pretty sure that the X-Touch Compact can not be used to control the XR18. It does not have an Ethernet connection necessary for the job.

Correct. An X surface will not control an XR unit...

 

[peterpalmieri]

I've been using an XR18 for about a year and a half, and been checking out all the various control options. I am pretty sure that the X-Touch Compact can not be used to control the XR18. It does not have an Ethernet connection necessary for the job.

Correct. An X surface will not control an XR unit...

I don't understand? There are videos from Behringer showing them using it. Am I missing something?




Wireless, wired to an external router or using midi

 

[john mahon]

I don't understand? There are videos from Behringer showing them using it. Am I missing something?




Wireless, wired to an external router or using midi

There are two different units in this discussion, the X-Touch $599(Behringer X-Touch), and the X-Touch Compact $399(Behringer X-Touch Compact) The X-Touch Compact cannot control the XR series of mixers. The video referenced above shows the X-Touch in action controlling the XR series. I have one of these and it works very nicely on the XR series. I made the same mistake, assuming that the two control surfaces are interchangeable. They are not. Fortunately, I discovered this difference before purchasing any equipment. I point it out in this discussion to save others from the same situation. I also want to point out that you do have to update the X-Touch firmware before it can connect to the XR series. This process involves free software available on the internet. I hope this helps.

 

[peterpalmieri]

There are two different units in this discussion, the X-Touch $599(Behringer X-Touch), and the X-Touch Compact $399(Behringer X-Touch Compact) The X-Touch Compact cannot control the XR series of mixers. The video referenced above shows the X-Touch in action controlling the XR series. I have one of these and it works very nicely on the XR series. I made the same mistake, assuming that the two control surfaces are interchangeable. They are not. Fortunately, I discovered this difference before purchasing any equipment. I point it out in this discussion to save others from the same situation. I also want to point out that you do have to update the X-Touch firmware before it can connect to the XR series. This process involves free software available on the internet. I hope this helps.

Yes thank you!

 

[jlepre]

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[Ethereal Thorn]

I wish they released a rack mountable model with more outputs i need 6 stereo outs for in ear monitoring only able to do 4 on most mixers I've seen

 

[Pat C.]

I wish they released a rack mountable model with more outputs i need 6 stereo outs for in ear monitoring only able to do 4 on most mixers I've seen

The XR18 is rackmountable. If you want stereo monitoring use the Ultranet on the mixer instead of aux sends. Use a Behringer P16-D to distribute and power individual Behringer P16-M mixers. Each musician gets a full stereo mix and can control their own levels and EQ right from stage.

 

[jlepre]

I just picked up the XR16 and boy am I impressed. I am still working with it in my basement, and not ready to take to a gig. I went from the X1222usb analog, and this has opened so many doors for me. I mainly will be using with 3,4 & 5 piece cover bands in a live situation.

I will be purchasing an external router, and was wondering what others have tried. I'm looking for inexpensive but compact.

Question: If my laptop has an RJ45 ethernet port, can't I just use a cable to go direct into the mixer if I ever have issues with the internal Wi-Fi?

 

[tkonbass]

I just picked up the XR16 and boy am I impressed. I am still working with it in my basement, and not ready to take to a gig. I went from the X1222usb analog, and this has opened so many doors for me. I mainly will be using with 3,4 & 5 piece cover bands in a live situation.

I will be purchasing an external router, and was wondering what others have tried. I'm looking for inexpensive but compact.

Question: If my laptop has an RJ45

ethernet port, can't I just use a cable to go direct into the mixer if I ever have issues with the internal Wi-Fi?

I've had my XR18 for about a year and a half now and continue to be impressed with its capabilities and value. Probably one of the best "bang for the buck" gear investments I've ever made.

I never used the internal router and initially used an old Netgear unit. A few months ago I switched to this little Mikrotik box Amazon.com: RouterBoard hAP AC Lite Tower: Cell Phones & Accessories to gain dual band capability. It's very small, has no external antennas and has worked flawlessly. We connect the FOH tablet and three smaller tablets for monitors, the wired laptop, wired Driverack and lighting controller interface through the Mikrotik and it hasn't hiccupped yet. It's velcro'd into the back of my rack.

Yes you can wire the laptop direct to the XR or as I have, just keep it connected through one of the ports on the router along with the laptop.

 

[jlepre]

I've had my XR18 for about a year and a half now and continue to be impressed with its capabilities and value. Probably one of the best "bang for the buck" gear investments I've ever made.

I never used the internal router and initially used an old Netgear unit. A few months ago I switched to this little Mikrotik box Amazon.com: RouterBoard hAP AC Lite Tower: Cell Phones & Accessories to gain dual band capability. It's very small, has no external antennas and has worked flawlessly. We connect the FOH tablet and three smaller tablets for monitors, the wired laptop, wired Driverack and lighting controller interface through the Mikrotik and it hasn't hiccupped yet. It's velcro'd into the back of my rack.

Yes you can wire the laptop direct to the XR or as I have, just keep it connected through one of the ports on the router along with the laptop.

Thanks for this info. It's much appreciated. Can I keep the laptop hardwired at the same time as using the external Wifi Router? Kinda like a fail safe in case the Wi-Fi has issues?