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Bergantino B/Amp at NAMM

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Here's a clip form a recent outdoor gig my band did, it's a Mike Lull MV-5 with Nordstrand Big Singles and Bartolini/Lull 3 band preamp into the Bergantino B/Amp.. The signal is clean which the sound guy loved... Something I really love about this amp is the only adjustment I make on the gig is the tone control on my bass or maybe moving my right hand position... I always found with others amp that I'm making a few changes or more during a gig which can be tedious.. The amp/cab are flat and you don't have to make up for any EQ deficiencies...
 

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SCT1422 said:
Here's a clip form a recent outdoor gig my band did, it's a Mike Lull MV-5 with Nordstrand Big Singles and Bartolini/Lull 3 band preamp into the Bergantino B/Amp.. The signal is clean which the sound guy loved... Something I really love about this amp is the only adjustment I make on the gig is the tone control on my bass or maybe moving my right hand position... I always found with others amp that I'm making a few changes or more during a gig which can be tedious.. The amp/cab are flat and you don't have to make up for any EQ deficiencies...
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very nice clip, playing and tone. if you'd be so kind sir...out of curiosity, what was the placement of recording device and method/device for recording this? just to help me quantify what I'm hearing...the bass does sound quite clean, rich and full. I really wouldn't expect less from Bergantino, but for a full SS amp, it has a nice "texture" to it......(I do use and appreciate Berg cabs, as well as a Lull 5, something between an MV5/TC5.)
 
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SCT1422 said:
Here's a clip form a recent outdoor gig my band did, it's a Mike Lull MV-5 with Nordstrand Big Singles and Bartolini/Lull 3 band preamp into the Bergantino B/Amp.. The signal is clean which the sound guy loved... Something I really love about this amp is the only adjustment I make on the gig is the tone control on my bass or maybe moving my right hand position... I always found with others amp that I'm making a few changes or more during a gig which can be tedious.. The amp/cab are flat and you don't have to make up for any EQ deficiencies...
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Very nice!! Are you using the 12's or the 15's on this gig?

Mark
 
#304
Thank you...The recording came straight off the board, but not sure of the recording device.. I will try and find out, sound was handled by a local company... I was using both of my CN-210's, but what you are hearing is from the D.I. You are right about the sound/tone texture of the amp, clean and very rich and full...
 
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So if the filters are designed to work with particular cabs, what does the amp do when it's sending a feed via the DI and there is no cab for the signal to be working on?

Does that mean the filters aren't sent to the DI? If so what does the amp send?

Would an out of balance signal be sent to the desk?
 
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chris_b said:
So if the filters are designed to work with particular cabs, what does the amp do when it's sending a feed via the DI and there is no cab for the signal to be working on?

Does that mean the filters aren't sent to the DI? If so what does the amp send?

Would an out of balance signal be sent to the desk?
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Hi Chris,

One of the important features of the B|AMP's architecture is that the Profile eq's never can go to the DI, thus never to the FOH. These eq's are specific to your stage speaker. The only eq's, if selected, that can go to the FOH via the DI are the 4 tone controls and Bright switch. Even the VHPF and Feedback filters can not go to the DI, as they are again specific to help you with your stage system and sound. The effects loop, however, is part of the DI signal chain regardless if Post or Pre Eq is selected for the DI out. The DI is balanced and phantom power protected.

Hope this helps clarify.

Regards,

Jim Bergantino
 
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SCT1422 said:
Thank you...The recording came straight off the board, but not sure of the recording device.. I will try and find out, sound was handled by a local company... I was using both of my CN-210's, but what you are hearing is from the D.I. You are right about the sound/tone texture of the amp, clean and very rich and full...
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if you find out easily enough that would be cool to know, else no worries. again, thank you for posting your experiences and clip.
 
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chris_b said:
Hey Jim, thanks for the info.

A second thought just occurred. If the EQ (4 tone controls and Bright switch) hasn't been selected, is there a default eq that gets sent to the DI?
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Hi Chris,

No default eq gets sent to the DI. You can either send the Post Eq (which includes the 4 tone controls and bright + effects loop) or Pre EQ, which is your signal just prior to the tone controls + effects loop.

Regards,

Jim Bergantino
 
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Jim had been asking me to try to the NV-610 with the B-Amp for a while now. But my NV-610T sits in the back with an Aguilar DB-751 on top of it, and my little rig (two HT-112ER's w/ the B-Amp) sits up in my office. I'd have to disconnect the head and walk a couple hundred paces to try the B-Amp w/ the NV-610T. LOL Whoa is me, the struggle is real. :)

Anyway, I finally found some spare time and made it happen. As I've previously experienced with the HD-112 and HT-112ER cabs, the cab profile feature really does some wonderful things for the low end of the NV-610T. What already sounds clear without the cab profile becomes even MORE clear with the cab profile engaged. I wouldn't describe the DB-751 as muddy sounding, but the B-Amp with the cab profile engaged is definitely less muddy sounding. I'm really excited to give this combination a shot on one of my louder gigs. If I only I had something like that on the books... dang it!!
 
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RocketMusic said:
Jim had been asking me to try to the NV-610 with the B-Amp for a while now. But my NV-610T sits in the back with an Aguilar DB-751 on top of it, and my little rig (two HT-112ER's w/ the B-Amp) sits up in my office. I'd have to disconnect the head and walk a couple hundred paces to try the B-Amp w/ the NV-610T. LOL Whoa is me, the struggle is real. :)

Anyway, I finally found some spare time and made it happen. As I've previously experienced with the HD-112 and HT-112ER cabs, the cab profile feature really does some wonderful things for the low end of the NV-610T. What already sounds clear without the cab profile becomes even MORE clear with the cab profile engaged. I wouldn't describe the DB-751 as muddy sounding, but the B-Amp with the cab profile engaged is definitely less muddy sounding. I'm really excited to give this combination a shot on one of my louder gigs. If I only I had something like that on the books... dang it!!
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Although the DB750/751 is probably one of the more consensus matches for the NV610, I couldn't get with that combination for a couple of reasons; and the "wooliness" of the DB was one of them. However, I was impressed by the overall slam that the Aggie produced with the NV610. If the B-Amp were to produce a similar level of slam, that would be most impressive. Most impressive.
 
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Well, it's not quite the same level of slam. The B-Amp starts to clip at some point where the DB-751 would still have more to give. But we're comparing a 55 lb lead sled to a 6.5 lb Class D head...

The point where the B-Amp starts clipping is really loud. It's almost certainly louder than I would ever have call to use. In my loudest musical situation (which is a very loud, small-club rock band where I sometimes have to fill the room with no PA support), it should be more than enough.
 
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