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Big Amps will come back one day!!!
- Thread starter jkalads
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No amplification stage, regardless of manufacturer or class, is digital. Once you’re beyond the signal processing end of things there’s a DA conversion and the amplifier is entirely in the analog domain.
Replying to number three-The demo here is decidedly "mature". A lot of miles on some of these bodies. Mine included. I haven't gone totally lightweight. I can still haul around heavier basses but if I wanted to drag around a fridge it would take some convincing.
I think I mentioned something earlier about condescending posts, I'm *so* happy that this thread continues to deliver.
I can't for the life of me figure out why someone would enjoy hauling a 100lb cab up and down a flight of steps.
I couldn't imagine walking to a gig with a 30 lb amp and 50 lb cabinet.
I think it's apparent that "hauling heavy gear" and "being a musician" don;t need to go hand in hand.
I can't figure out why ppl stick with old, outdated tech for no reason other than some sort of ego trip (I mean, not really, I get it if you like the sound of an amp, but it seems like a lot of lead sled fans go that route).
I'd rather put my energy into the show and playing than unnecessarily hauling around old gear.
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The preamp is digitally based, the power amp is non-linear analog.
Actually, those trying to sell the OTHER opinion are the ones who are starving these days. I've been on both sides of this evolution.
Regarding your insulting number three: there are indeed people who can no longer lift a heavy amp or cabinet but are better bass players than you or most players here will ever be. There are also bass players who don't want to wear themselves out anymore than necessary.
I come from a 40+ year career in the touring pro audio industry. At every opportunity, we looked at every way possible to decrease the wear and tear on our bodies so that we weren't broken as we got older. Not wanting to hump 5 tons of gear every night didn't make any of us weak... smarter yes but weaker, no. Saving weight and size costs a lot more, but allowed us to work into our 60's without being as broken as some of our younger counterparts who were not as careful.
My beloved "Pyramid of Doom", 1971 when I was 18. Standel Artist 30 rig, 6x15's 450 watts. And yeah nothing compares to standing in front of that thing when it was cranked. But I never went small. I still gig with all tube rigs and either a 410 or 2x115's.
You can have all the tubes you want in the preamp to make a sweet tone, then use a nice big class D power amp to drive the speakers.
If you do it that way there is no need to use heavy transformers any more, you can have light weight and a compact format.
If you do it that way there is no need to use heavy transformers any more, you can have light weight and a compact format.
I'm not really trying and couldn't care less about which amp you use, just pointing out the obvious. I mean, who cares what it sounds like through FOH, amirite?
As long as it sounds good to you. If that's your jam, fine, but it's not the argument you think it is. Try again.
@agedhorse - Brilliant, thoughtful answer to a post that doesn't really deserve a response. Thank you.
Does he really need to try again to satisfy you or anyone else? If you couldn't care less which amp he uses, and I don't, why press him on it?I'm not really trying and couldn't care less about which amp you use, just pointing out the obvious. I mean, who cares what it sounds like through FOH, amirite?
That wasn't the point of the comment, and yay? That kind of explains the attitude ...
not pressing him at all, I thought we were having a discuss about amps? Again, merely pointing out the obvious. Where did I say that he had to satisfy me? Or is it okay that he makes comments but no one else can?
Here's the truth: Big or small, light or heavy amps - the only people this matters to is bass players. The audience doesn't really care if you're playing through two 810 cabs with 400 tube watts, a Class D amp on your pedal board into a 2x10 cab, or simply a modeler and no amp at all. If it sounds good into the FOH that is what matters.
Scalability is only in regard to the type of gig or size of venue you're playing in. When I saw Peter Gabriel last year Tony Levin is now using a Neural Quad Cortex and no amp. Good sound is all that matters in the end.
Scalability is only in regard to the type of gig or size of venue you're playing in. When I saw Peter Gabriel last year Tony Levin is now using a Neural Quad Cortex and no amp. Good sound is all that matters in the end.
Carry on.not pressing him at all, I thought we were having a discuss about amps? Again, merely pointing out the obvious. Where did I say that he had to satisfy me? Or is it okay that he makes comments but no one else can?
not pressing him at all, I thought we were having a discuss about amps? Again, merely pointing out the obvious. Where did I say that he had to satisfy me? Or is it okay that he makes comments but no one else can?
No body has stopped you making a comment.
Your point is that somehow I believe that I lose my low fi sound coming from "hifi" front of house.
Your assumption is not correct.
I simply responded I don't care about front of house, in relation to what equipment they're using. This is not a conversation "about amps"!
As it has no relationship to what sound is coming out of my speaker cab. That sound coming from my speaker cab is all I care about in relation to this topic.
You're free to manipulate the response in any way you like to satisfy, justify, whatever point it is you're attempting to prove.
